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2008-2011, 2012

"Talk:Eurocopter EC135" (Author request: Author blanked page)

Did I miss something? Can't remember seen that... Can you tell what it was about? Cheers --HHS 12:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

F-JJTH wrote " Heiko, is V1.0 full "Rembrandt compatible" ?" on the page but blanked it shortly thereafter. I think he found the answer already... So all I did was delete that blank page.
Gijs 16:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

About the wiki..

Hi Gijs, hope all is well. I was stopping by because I noticed the words "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view. " in the editor. Its really not right to say this, because the FlightGear wiki has to be a "primary source". The contributions are typically original writing, and it specifically includes opinions (such as reviews), as well as first-hand accounts. Thank you. Fg 20:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The wiki is mostly a primary source, saying "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. .. " makes no sense. Most of what is written here is orginal content, and it does not make sense to have this in the edit box. Also, I don't agree with many of the articles you have deleted. These are small issues in view of your large contributions to the project, and I want to thank you for those, but I must also bring up these issues. Thanks again. Fg (talk) 20:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

You're right about the "external sources" statement. That was just a default from MediaWiki but is not very applicable to our wiki. I've removed it now. Thanks for notifying me!
What is it that you don't agree with? Is it the airport articles? Those were not deleted yet, they were only marked for deletion. The notice mentioned why I think they should be deleted. Feel free to share your arguments that make you think they should be kept. As the template stated "Do not remove this tag until the discussion is closed.", so I've placed the templates back and am looking forward to your (argued) opinion.
Gijs (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks for fixing that! Come to think of it "Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." may also be unneeded, as we have sections for reviews (with opinions) of aircraft, etc. but I will leave that up to you. I will check out the articles for deletion again. Thank you. Fg (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Adding the village pump to the sidebar or not

I have been pondering adding the village pump to the sidebar. I would probably add it between Recent changes and Random page. I have read in a bit on the sidebar on the MediaWiki help pages, but before I actually do it I want to ask you about your opinion about doing that.

The biggest pros and cons as I see it is that anyone will find it so it will be used a bit more, but at the same time that those that will not even read a few sentences of text (including people not comfortably reading English) sometimes will go there for help on using the simulator itself instead of going to the forum.

So what do you think about it?

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 09:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

how about creating a "Wiki" header that contains the "Recent changes" and "Help" links? It could then also have a link to the village pump. I don't think we should call it "Village pump" though, as probably no-one will guess that's a place to talk about the wiki ;-) Something like "Wiki discussions" or so is more descriptive...
Cheers, Gijs (talk) 13:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I have been thinking of changing the name of that page as well. "Village pump" is used on WikiMedia Commons, the Swedish Wikipedia (though translated) and probably a few other wikis so someone coming from one of those places would be at home with it, but not everyone are from those places.
I have in the past considered suggesting changing it into say "Editor lounge" or rather something aviation related, but for instance "Pilot lounge" would have been so horribly misleading. ;-)
A "Wiki" header will help organise the contents but might hide contents by default, but hopefully people are curious enough to spend a few seconds looking around.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 19:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Went ahead and added a link in the sidebar titled "Discuss!".
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 13:58, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with Fatal error: Class 'Services_JSON' /CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php on line 224 Error


I saw you had mentioned the issue with the JSON class. I was wondering if you ever found a resolution for this problem. I support a wiki group and have been suffering for the last month trying to resolve this issue. I would be grateful for any help.

I am running mediawiki 1.22 with php 5.3.10

On another note, I have been flying RC planes and gliders for years. I have wanted to get a simulator program. Would this be a good one to start with ?

Many Thanks


Hi Peter,
like I said at FlightGear wiki:Village pump#Found bugs
"The CategoryTree extension relies on a function that was removed as of 1.22.0, so the extensions needs some fixing. I've disabled it for now."
So my solution was to disable it. The extension itself needs fixing to work with more recent version of MediaWiki, that's not something I intended to do ;-)
And yes, FlightGear would be a good simulator to start (and even stick) with. I'm biased though...
Gijs (talk) 09:56, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Two bot jobs – Moving categories to plural form

Hello Gijs, I got stumbled upon a request for a bot job that I added to User talk:BotFlightGear a while ago. Just a gentle reminder. ;-)

The requested moves are intended to be a part of trying to make the category names more logical and harder to mistype etc.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 14:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. He's running!
Gijs (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. :-)
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 15:48, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

06/2014 newsletter: too much of a mess

Use new templates; cleanup (except for Canvas stuff, which is too much of a mess right now))
Please feel free to clean up or just remove the "mess". I realize that it's messy (Thorsten also said so recently), I added those things when we didn't have a whole lot of content, and I didn't bother writing anything from scratch, I just took stuff from the forum using the Instant-Cquotes script, which is why it's a bit "messy". But if you should decide to clean it up, I'll volunteer to help cleaning up navdisplay.mfd::update() on your behalf ;-) --Hooray (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
There's not just instant cquotes, but also sections with no text at all. Garmin and Aircraft Center for example. I don't know how someone who hasn't been following the progress is supposed to make sense out of that; which is why I think you're the best person to work on it.
When I close the newsletter and "publish" it, I usually make sure the layout is somewhat readable. Right now that job would require more time than I have and/or would like to spend.
Gijs (talk) 19:27, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
I've added instant-cquotes content from the corresponding wiki articles. Sorry for the mess, and thanks for the new newsletter layout - even though it's a bit awkward to edit now, can we still edit individual sections directly please ?--Hooray (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey, good job - that looks indeed much better. I was wondering if we should slightly extend the template, and then simply port Instant-cquotes to optionally create tailored sections for the newsletter, i.e. without the cquote, and using galleries, what do you think ?--Hooray (talk) 20:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
With the new section titles (that come with an author field), we don't need those quotes to make clear who's saying stuff. I've changed them to running texts now, which is a lot nicer to read IMO. Doing that on the first run is a lot easier than doing it later on, as I had to dig up the posts, get acquainted with the subject etc. The script you're using adds quite some nasty HTML to the wiki (treating normal urls as wiki links, adding dozens of <br/>, ignoring bullet lists), so I would suggest to not use it on large scale for now. If you can change it to produce running texts with correct wiki markup it would be a whole lot better ;-)
I'll have a look if we can re-enable sectional edits. Removing that was definitely unintended. My intention was to make the newsletter a little more appealing and less of an ordinary wiki article.
Gijs (talk) 20:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
right, what I am more concerned about is proper crediting-I already added Tom's nick twice there, because I wasn't involved in the development of the Aircraft Center, I merely posted some updates on the forum-which is why the cquotes script used my nick, and it was obvious that it was just a quote-now it looked like I was announcing my own work. But obviously the credit should go to TheTom & Zakalawe. The changes you suggest should be straightforward still. --Hooray (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
The new "By" tag is not meant to be used to credit the person that the section is about. It is meant to show who's written that section. So if you write something about Tom's work, your name ends up under the tile "By Hooray". Tom's name will end up in the text, where you can something along the lines of "Thanks to Tom's recent work...". Some people are not happy with articles that appear to have been written by them when they are not.
Gijs (talk) 20:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
ok, thanks for clarifying - maybe we should simply make it Written by (and Developed by) then to be on the safe side, i.e. change the template accordingly ? --Hooray (talk) 21:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
And just to be clear about it, I totally appreciate your work here, and I am looking forward to seeing if we can find a way to generalize the concept and reuse it for the changelog, even if that should just mean to partially include contents from 6 newsletters in it (as per FlightGear_wiki:Village_pump#Template_for_announcement_of_changes_and_new_features).--Hooray (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Livery texture aspect ratio

Did you accidentally remove the paragraph about that all liveries for an aircraft have to have the same aspect ratio in this edit?

Apart from that thanks for catching and fixing my very old error, n2 → 2n ;-)

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 15:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

No, it was deliberate. UVmaps use coordinates like 0.3*width, 0*heigth instead of absolute values (eg. 3rd pixel up, 15th pixel to the right). That's also why you can replace textures with different resolutions without having to edit the mapping.
You'll probably get an overly stretched texture (since pixels will beno longer "squares", as in the most likely ideal original mapping), but it is not impossible or principally wrong ;-)
Gijs (talk) 16:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 18:58, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Strange infobox image bug

I recently found a very strange bug I can not wrap my head around. It appears that an image from English Wikipedia is used instead of an image with the identical name on this wiki.

When I looked at the rather new page Yakovlev Yak-130 (perm) as well as the page I moved it from, I noticed that the aircraft picture is a photo and was about to edit the file page. Instead of seeing a photo on the file page I see a FlightGear screenshot File:Yak-130.jpg. The {{infobox aircraft}} seems to be as it should be. Going to English Wikipedia and looking for the image I find the very same image as I see rendered on the page, File:Yak-130.jpg This is a link to a Wikipedia article.

I have no idea what is going on.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 11:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

that seems to be an unwanted side-effect of mw:InstantCommons. In principle this shouldn't conflict, but I suspect someone did load the Commons image before uploading the one to our wiki. Thus, the Commons one ended up in the thumbnail cache.
I've now disabled this feature, as I don't think we use it anywhere on the wiki. Not even sure why it was enabled in the first place...
Gijs (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I would not even have imagined.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 16:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PA32 deleted


Noticed this is deleted - not enough info or inappropriate? Pls let me know. I have set myself a personal goal to review over 35 civil aviation aircraft and upload screenshots.

Openflight (talk) 01:26, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Not enough info (nothing FlightGear specific). The only content was "The Piper PA 32 is a single engined aircraft built by Piper." That's not what our wiki is for ;-) Feel free to restart the article if you've got more to write now.
Gijs (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Sure will do, thanks. Openflight (talk) 02:44, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Adding Table of Aircraft to Wiki page

Hi, if it's ok , will edit Wiki home page and add link to table of aircraft as follows:

Using New to FlightGear Frequently asked questions • Troubleshooting • List of aircraft • Installing scenery • Installing aircraft Helicopter flying

My concern is those new to Flight Gear do not get to see the list of aircraft and the aircraft detaisl right away from Wiki home page or FG home page

Wrong link

Hi Gijs! You still have a link for our Gitorius account you know.

Red Leader's pygments Nasal lexer

Hi Gijs, referring to Red Leader's work at [1], is there any way we/I can help to get this applied ? If you are too busy to handle/review this currently, can we get in touch with someone else who's got the corresponding access/privileges on the wiki (Curt, Simon?). Thanks --Hooray (talk) 09:19, 22 April 2016 (EDT)


Wiki Edits


Thanks for your recent edits of Howto pages I'm working on. In my future posts, I'll try to follow suit with the style corrections you made.

Is there a style guide I should read?

Callahanp (talk) 07:55, 3 August 2016 (EDT)

there is, at FlightGear wiki:Manual of Style. Help:Formatting may also be useful to consult when you're in doubt about certain things. I mostly changed some minor things that you now know how to do "correct", so don't be afraid to make mistakes. We're very pleased with your contributions!
Gijs (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2016 (EDT)

SOTM in the Newsletter of August 2016

Hi Gijs, would you please add the following text to August's Newsletter (below the "Screenshots" section)?

==== Screenshot of the Month ====
FlightGear's Screenshot of the Month August 2016 is ''Bad weather take off from EDDI'' by {{usr|Dg-505|Jonathan S. (Dg-505)}}
[[File:Ju-52 taking off from EDDI.jpg|900px|center|Bad weather take off from EDDI]]

If you want to participate in the screenshot contest of September 2016, you can submit your candidate to [ this] forum topic. Be sure to see the [ first post] for participation rules. For purposes of convenience and organization, after all the entries have been submitted, a new forum topic will be started containing all shots in an easy-to-view layout. The voting will then take place there. Once the voting has finished, the best screenshot will be presented in the Newsletter edition of September 2016.

Thanks Jonathan

Done Done
Red Leader (Talk, contribs) 11:30, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

Thank you :-)

Dg-505 (talk) 11:50, 8 September 2016 (EDT)