User talk:Gijs/Archive 2008-2011

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/index.php spam problem

Can you please delete the "/index.php" once more? The problem is tyhat, this spam can still be reached over the editing history, e.g. (please remove all underscores). --Admin of mpserver08 01:02, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Right, I didn't think of that. Fixed now. Thanks for notifying me!
Gijs 05:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

04/2011: Reality/Fiction sorting task

Dear Gijs, let my try to show You why I had moved "Vostok-1" article up in 04/2011 newsletter. My logic is pretty clear. Hope You will see it.

I am sure what reality is more important than fiction. And I am sure what more important going first, at least in news. That's it because of respect to reader time. Reader may read more important and then close page.

I am pretty sure what really flying implementation of really flying spacecraft opens new horizons for FlightGear right now, instead of fictional craft implementation what can not go anywhere at all yet.

By the way, to go somewhere new in reality You need only to make thing what goes. To go somewhere in simulation You need to make place where to go, too. For sure right now Dr. Who in FlightGear can not move in time and space as he did in fiction, because that places not implemented in FlightGear yet. And to make that places is more complex task than to implement other planets where spacecraft can go. So planets will be implemented first. So for now spacecraft is more important.

But I feel what moving some other man article down is an insult to him, even if You are right and there is more important things than what he did wrote or what he did wrote about. So I had put "Vostok-1" "aircraft" up instead of moving "Dr. Who TARDIS" "aircraft" down.

I see no reason in some conflict until understanding other man view on subject. So please let me know why You did put fiction above reality and why You are doing that still.

If You are agree with me then please put "TARDIS" below "Vostok" in "Aircraft", better "Spacecraft" section, because space craft it's bit more than air craft.

I do not want and can not insult others. You, I suppose, see no problem doing that. So it's Your task, not mine.

This unsigned comment was added by Vitos (Talk | contribs) 09:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I did not put the TARDIS article there, and actually didn't notice it was there. It should've gone in the "Aircraft" section, as it is being developed as if it was some sort of "aircraft". I've moved it to the right spot now. See, this is an example of the moving/editing that continues throughout the month, that I talked about yesterday. ;) Those empty sections will be removed before the "publication", images will be ordered etc.
Oh, and I agree with you that your Vostok is much more of an achievement than the TARDIS! And I'm sure readers will quickly notice that, by quickly scanning the screenshots. I for one would defenitely get attracted to read your text after seeing the images!
PS: Please sign messages on wiki-talk pages with ~~~~, so we now who said what.
Gijs 08:04, 20 April 2011 (EDT)
Okeedokee. I agree with rules if it's logical and really common and nonexclusive.
Vitos 16:07, 20 April 2011 (EDT)

06/2010: Your Git related edits/deletions

Hi, why exactly was the paragraph about Tortoise Git removed from the article, without adding it back to the Windows specific article ([1])? Also please note that the windows article that you linked to, is not any longer just about accessing the Git repositories, but specifically about using these together with pre-compiled binaries in order to obtain an updated version of FlightGear: Even though this page was initially meant to become the equivalent of So the scope of these pages seems either currently somewhat ill-defined or some users are making simply pretty unfortunate edits? --MILSTD 17:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

you are free to add TortoiseGit to the Git on Windows page (somewhere in the "You can use any Git software, however we advise to use msysGit" sentence maybe). I received multiple complains about that software, stating that it did not work well, but if you have positive experiences with it then it would be nice to add.
The article does indeed only cover how to obtain up-to-date fgdata and binaries; for compiling FlightGear we have Building Flightgear - Windows, which needs an update for Git though. A reference to that article (once updated) should be placed on the Git on Windows article.
The wiki page is still very young, so there are lots of things that could be improved/added. You and others are free to do so.
Cheers, Gijs 18:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

You Removed my pic

I was not uploading anything I uploaded a real Pic of the plane then I hear this not an upload site.

1w36 20:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't get your sentence. You didn't upload anything, but you did upload a pic? Anyway, I removed it because it was not used on the wiki and it wasn't a FlightGear screenshot or anything of the like. If it was your own picture and meant to be used in an article about the FlightGear aircraft (to show the difference/resamblence between the real and simulated aircraft), please re-upload it. I appoligize for removing it then, should've asked first :(
Gijs 15:34, 14 November 2011 (EST)
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Lightmaps in FG 2.6.0

Hi Gijs, I have read the red remark added by HHS about Howto: Lightmap. I would like to know if this effect is totally out of service for FG 2.4/2.5 ? Or if it works but only with certain condition(s) ? Thanks for your answer

Clément 19:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Clement!
The "old" lightmap will continue to work in 2.6.0 (as it did in 2.4.0), but its better to use the uber-shader in 2.6.0 (as that allows you to have reflection, bumpspec ánd lightmap all on the same object! There are already some examples in Git (IAR 80, DHC-2, 747-400 to name a few). I've edited the howto slightly, but it needs some more info on the new uber shader. On IRC, ask i4dnf for details ;)
Gijs 14:36, 29 December 2011 (EST)

Your recent Edits

Hi, I noticed that you undid my edit to the helicopter page. Perhaps you should look at this page: Special:DoubleRedirects I was trying to correct the DoubleRedirct #4. I assumed this would do it but I was apparently wrong. Perhaps you could take a look at it. Thanks for your help

Stepfaw 19:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Stepfaw,
I fixed the double redirect for you. Take a look at the Recent changes to see what I did. I really appreciate the fact that you try to keep the double redirects to a minimum. Well done!
Gijs 19:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Thank you for formatting my new article on the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum. This was my first article and I was having a hard time formating it to look like the others.


Hi Stepfaw,
Thanks a lot for creating the article ;) By creating articles and looking at other articles you'll soon learn how to create even better articles!
Cheers, Gijs 04:15, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
PS, please sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes (~).


We've talked about this before, however I would like to ask you now clearly to please stop removing boilerplate contents from wiki pages only because they may not yet be sufficiently populated in your opinion (or anyone else's for that matter)!

You are free to remove whatever references to such pages you may consider unnecessary or annoying at this time and add classifying markup, however removing initial contents (structural boilerplate or not) from such pages or possibly removing even complete pages (regardless of whether they contain contents or not) is definitively wrong and could indeed be considered discouraging and hardly constructive.

Please don't get me wrong, as I've said before: your recent wiki contributions are extremely appreciated, however whoever started a page should clearly be considered the "owner" or at least "maintainer" of the page initially, this applies certainly as long as a page must be considered "work in progress".

There is hardly any point in trying to instruct people how to make their contributions as long as they remain self-contained and do not necessarily affect other people. Unreferenced FlightGear-related pages would certainly satisfy these criteria.

Thank you

This unsigned comment was added by MILSTD (Talk | contribs) 19:04, 8 March 2008‎ (UTC)

I don't know why you're so upset. Since the last time we talked to each other I've removed nothing. I just add some of the pages you (and others) created to the Article Considered for Deletion category. I completely understand your feelings when i've did something that you don't agree with, but please take a closer look before you start telling me what I'm doing wrong. I know I removed some of your category's, but I've removed no pages since the last conversation between us.
The webmaster is the only one who's able to remove pages. Users could only remove content, but that could be reset by any user (including you). With the new category (and corresponding template) we could now consider articles for deletion. The webmaster could remove them if it's not needed or if there's something else wrong. If you're not agree with the (upcoming) deletion of an article in this category you could talk about it at it's talk page. The article may be removed from the category (but only by the webmaster!) when someone has edit it, expand it or make it better etc.
Gijs 06:03, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

Citing Wikipedia?

Hi Gijs,

I saw you used a paragraph from the PBY Catalina Wikipedia entry on the Catalina page here. Normally one should provide the source when quoting like that (I doubt Wikipedia would complain, though). It is better to rewrite the information in your own words. IMHO I also don't find the information about the US military use of the PBY that relevant on our page since the PBY in FlightGear is unarmed, civilian and French.

Cheers, AndersG 10:21, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

I agree Anders. I will stop copying the information. I thought it would be nice to have some info about the real plane to, but we should write our own as you said. Sorry. Gijs 10:59, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Contacting you via the forum PM function

Hey Gijs,

I sent you a PM three days ago about the ground signs. Did you receive it? I just sent another one to test how I can contact you directly. I'm asking because I contacted you via the PM function about one or two months ago and never got an answer either.

Cheers, David D-79 07:48, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Well, I did receive your last PM, but the earlier ones I've never seen. Maybey I should clean up my inbox more often? :)
Gijs 06:20, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

You did receive my last PM, as far as I can see. It's the one with the subject "Test PM" and you answered it.

David D-79 13:26, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Problem dowloading liveries

hi Gijs, i try download the set of livreries for 737 on your website, but the link is broken there. please make sure the link work.

The link is indeed broken, but the package has been moved to a new location: Please download it from there and let me know if you manage to set it up.
Btw, please sign your talk messages at the wiki with four tildes (~).
Cheers, Gijs 15:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
ok thank for the new link and sorry for sign --Lolalilo 18:02, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

User creation log.

Hi Gijs,

I think the wiki is the target of a - quite - massive user creation process via robots:

If you look at the following log : you will see that a lot of new users never post and have quite the same way of name creation, eg:

  • Bucknermcui
  • Tristonsheltony
  • Marenawilkinso ‎
  • Juniorcfarmerl ‎
  • Gavynaburnettw ‎
  • Morganqmcgowans ‎
  • Blancherhermani

I don't have the IP who has been creating this, but for the same day I would probably say it is the same. Maybe it would be usefull to add a Captcha plugin to avoid this kind of creation even if, for the moment, their goal is quite obscure ?

Cheers, Oliver

Hi Oliver,
thanks for the report. I've send an email to Simon (the wiki admin) to install some anti-spam addons ;)
Gijs 16:40, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Concerning user creation spam, the solution is over here : mw:Spam#Captcha !
Maybe you would also have to delete the users with no articles written to have things clear.
See u in the air, Olivier 14:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
After a different addon was intalled I never checked if it included the Captcha (which it didn't) :p
It does now. And given the fact that we only had one new user (compared to 18 at the same time yesterday) I'd say it works. The wiki admin might delete those accounts as well. Thanks for the help Oliver!
Gijs 05:28, 26 January 2011 (EST)
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Wiki issues

Hi Gijs, happy 2011! I wanted to stop by to point out some issues I noticed on the wiki.

  1. As pointed out by Oliver, there is a problem with large numbers of unused (spam?) accounts being created.
  2. There is a problem with many image thumbnails producing a gray screen and the error "Error creating thumbnail: convert: unrecognized option `-set'."
  3. I want to recommend against the practice of using category pages as articles, such as [:Category:Airbus]. Among other reasons, people can become frustrated when they cannot edit the list.
  4. The community portal link is broken. It goes to " portal", but the real page has a capitalized "p", ":Community_Portal".
  5. I am impressed by Gallery/2.0.0. Perhaps a variation of this can be used for a picture of the day? Since it spreads across languages, maybe just today's date in numbers with an automated screenshot selection.
  6. Speaking of screenshots, there is a deficit of current screenshots of FG 2.0 (such as of the new clouds/dynamic water). Maybe we could have some sort of a "wiki screenshot upload drive", to boost the amount content available for articles and main page pictures.

Finally, thanks for all your contributions to flightgear and the wiki. Wish you the best in your pursuits. Fg 15:41, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Thanks for fixing the community portal! Fg 15:20, 18 January 2011 (EST)
I didn't have the time to write you back yet, so here we go :)
  1. We (wiki admin and I) are aware of it. However, I am not the wiki admin (just a moderator), so I cannot install extra levels of security...
  2. The same problem comes in here. I prepared a fix, but the admin has to fix it (and apparently he hasn't been online for a while...).
  3. I myself do like the "category articles", as they provide an automated list of pages in that category. Manufacturers do not require lengthy articles at our wiki; that's something that should be kept at Wikipedia IMO.
  4. That was an easy fix.
  5. We had POTD in the past, but it turned out that it isn't that easy to have a unique (and nice) picture each single day. That's why we moved to POTW.
  6. I like this idea; we can easily create a topic at the forum to ask people for their support. However, the thumbnail issue should get fixed first!
Thanks for your feedback! Cheers, Gijs 15:28, 18 January 2011 (EST)
Roger that, thanks for looking into these issues. Fg 15:50, 18 January 2011 (EST)

How do I add a video?

Hey Gijs,

I have made a video on how to use the Animated Jetway System, is it possible to add this video onto the FlightGear Wiki Animated Jetways Page?

If so, please tell me how I can do it?

Thanks, Vin

Hi Vin,
  1. Upload the video to YouTube.
  2. Either place the link to the YouTube video in the article, or embed the video via the YouTube tag:
{{#ev:youtube|i2BSUOMyiIg}} where the code should come from your video's YouTube link (the code comes after ?v= in the video url).
Oh, and please sign your messages to Wiki talk pages with four tildes (~).
Gijs 17:06, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

What do you mean sign the messages.

What do you mean by;

Oh, and please sign your messages to Wiki talk pages with four tildes (~).


Oh and I put the videos up on this page;

Regards, Vin

By typing ~~~~ after your replies, we'll see your name, and the date/time at which you posted it. Like this:
Gijs 05:16, 27 March 2011 (EDT)

Thanks Gijs

Thanks for doing battle with spammers. Fg 16:37, 16 April 2011 (EDT)

Newsletter August 2011

Hi Gijs. I have scribbled some words on the Wiki updates in the August newsletter. I am unsure how to link, is the newsletter also being distributed by e-mail meaning links should be external? I'd like someone to proofread the two wiki articles I/we made (lear and console) before the newsletter goes locked hence my wording in the newsletter. Pls moderate and if you have time.... proofread perhaps. Thanks!

PH-JBO 07:45, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Wiki links should always be handled as "internal". The newsletter is only published at the wiki (though being linked to at various places), so that should be no problem. I'll have a look at your articles and see if there's anything to do for me :)
Thanks for your contributions!
Gijs 07:49, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Great! Thanks for the modifications. I have been looking at the cockpit, descriptions and links with other relevant pages. I conclude that the PFD from the citation should be merged (moved over) with the more general PFD. I'll work on that. Cheers!

PH-JBO 15:05, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Wiki wishlist

I was so sure I have seen the wiki wishlist but I can not find it back. Can you pls point me towards it? I'm working on one of the items on that list.

PH-JBO 11:05, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

You mean this one? See Special:SpecialPages for more of such pages.
Gijs 12:53, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

Nope. But you helped me on my way! I's this page: Article requests.

  • PH-JBO 13:15, 14 September 2011 (EDT)


done PH-JBO 19:12, 21 September 2011 (EDT)


Done PH-JBO 04:26, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

pls rename/move

Tried and tried again, best way to learn is by making mistakes. But since I can't delete articles I now need somebody with some more powers. Pls rename "Template:Nl/Did you know" to "Template:Did you know/nl" (and delete the obsolete redirects) and check if it works on Nl/Hoofdpagina.

  • PH-JBO 17:26, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
There's a nicer solution: put all translations in the same template and let the wiki dynamically select one. Please check it out Template:Did you know (English, but if you click edit you'll see how it works). We also use this method on the Template:News.
I'll be in Lelystad throughout the whole weekend... ;)
Gijs 17:55, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Oh. That looks great! I did a copy/paste of "Template:Nl/Did you know" to my sandbox, you can delete that template. After translating I will transfer it towards the Mixed language version of "Did you know". Can not make promises about Lelystad but I'm trying to come :)

  • PH-JBO 06:50, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
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