User talk:Gijs/Archive 2012

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Renaming newly categorised files

I saw in recent changes that you have renamed many of the files that I have categorised, and I just want to say: Thumbs up icon Thank you! --Johan G 15:15, 14 February 2012 (EST)

Not intentionally only files that you categorised (apparently you categorised ALL file :P), but files that had the basic fgfs-screen names, which is very very bad...
I'd like to thank you for all the hard work you're doing on the wiki these days. Good to see some more activity!
Gijs 15:17, 14 February 2012 (EST)
I didn't really categorise all files (there's still about 1400 to go...), but thank you anyway. ;-) —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 18:07, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

Template documentation

Just a heads up.

While having a bit less presence in the FlightGear community (probably a bit of recoil from straining myself, but also due to real life) for a while I drop in now and then for a peek on the Wiki.

Recently I noticed that one of my sup-pages (User:Johan G/Wiki improvement) was a bit different, but noticed I'm the only one editing there. Checking the used templates gave the explanation. Specifically the {{tl}} template. ;-)

When you add the {{informative template}}, make sure you leave the <noinclude> tag where it was. If you add empty lines and/or spaces, those will be added each time the the template is used with unwanted results. Remember that a space in the beginning of a line will put that remaining text on that line in a "code box". ;-)

In this specific case the previous edit looked like this,


while the new edit looked like this (spaces represented by underscores),


The result is that

The template {{informative template}} is a template documenting templates.

instead of being rendered like this,

The template {{informative template}} is a template documenting templates.

got rendered like this:

The template {{informative template}}

is a template documenting templates

Otherwise I see that you are doing a wonderful job.Thumbs up icon Just don't strain yourself, will you. :-)

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 18:49, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

Unsigned template + Archive pages

I had been thinking of moving {{unsigned2}} to {{unsigned}} for a while, but not done it. Good idea to keep the redirection page.

On a totally different matter, when you get to the point when you consider your talk page is to long I hope that you do not delete parts of it, but instead move it to a archive in the form of a subpage, in case you or someone else want to have a look on it in the future.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 07:03, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

Deleting of a user page?

Hi Gijs, erm, I see you deleted my User Page? umm.. Why? --Sebasgokart 10:24, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

It was deleted because someone else wrote down some discussion about your VA edits being spamlinks or not. Apart from that there was no content on the page, so it was deleted (all the way back in October!!).
Gijs 12:07, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

Article considered for deletion

Hi Gijs, my page is also suggest for being deleted because aparently, someone want to make a page with all the VA which does already exist ! So, I ask you (or if you have good reason) not to delete my articles because it's really anoying to make everyday the same roll-back on the page. Thx, Bastien.D 20:00 01 April 2012 (EDT)

Please see my message on your talk page: User talk:Bastien.D#Removing templates
Gijs 16:10, 1 April 2012 (EDT)

Virtual airline template

Thumbs up icon Thank you for the work on Template:Virtual airline summary! I could not have done it better for at least a couple of weeks. :-D —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 15:21, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

Missing GPL logo image

I noticed that the image for the GLP v.2 logo at the bottom right of every page is missing, but I do not know for how long it has been missing. I do not know where I should point you to help you fix it, yet, but on the source for a downloaded page it is located as below (note the empty src attribute):

<!-- footer -->
  <div id="footer">
    <img src="" alt="GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991" width="88" height="31"/>
<!-- /footer -->

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 05:18, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

I think it's never been there actually. MediaWiki templates do not support the GPL (by default), so it failed to display an icon. But I've removed it now. Will adjust the copyright text slightly as well.
Thanks! Gijs 05:42, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Delete article about non-existing partnership

Hi Gijs, Through this message on behalf of the group fgbr denuciar (Unitedfreeworld) be using our name in a partnership to build the 747-8i does not exist. We ask that meets our request and delete the Wiki page that is in putting the group fgbr as a partner working with (Unitedfreeworld). Here is the page created for them: Boeing 747-8i

Thank you for your attention.

The Group FGBr thanks. My prefix is ​​BR-WAG contact.

This unsigned comment was added by Wagner Silva (Talk | contribs) 07:21, 22 April 2012‎ (UTC)

feel free to remove UnitedFreeworld from the author tag. It's a wiki after all ;-) I see no reason the remove the article, just because there is one little fault in it...
Gijs 07:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
PS: Please sign messages on talk pages with ~~~~ and do not overwrite existing discussions. Instead, click the "Add topic" link at the top of the screen to add a new subject.

Old galleries and seemingly unused images

Just a heads-up. You probably should do a search before you delete unused images. I noticed that there are a lot of older galleries like e.g. FlightGear Newsletter January 2011#New aircraft that is not rendering the images. The file description pages will therefore indicate that the images are not in use.

The failed galleries might be a candidate for a bot job.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 03:56, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

Hm, thought I fixed them all. Thanks!
Gijs 07:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

The new main page layout

A few suggestions

  • Please add Portal:Wiki to the Portals in the left-hand menu. (I guess you simply forgot to do that ;-)
  • I strongly feel that there should be one single meeting place that is quickly and easily found, preferably not on a talk page. See rationale below.

Rationale for a single meeting place

I'm sorry if you would feel that I am a bit pushy about this, but I feel this is very important.

For a newcomer there doesn't seem to be a Village pump equivalent, where they can get a feel for the wiki community and ask their very first questions.

There are in fact several places, apart from (wich is currently not mentioned on Portal:Wiki), used in a similar way (that may or may not be intended for that purpose), some of them being:

The biggest drawback with having such a place on a talk page is that you either have to know it's there, or you more or less have to find it by accident. Also having the more general discussion spread over several (slightly obscure) places add an element of confusion: How would one know where to ask questions, and would anyone have a look there to answer them?

Maybe the statistics on FlightGear wiki:Community portal could be moved to a separate page, and FlightGear wiki talk:Community portal could be moved to FlightGear wiki:Community portal?

A single place for discussion, that is quickly and simply found, would make it easier to reach all of the more active editors without having to resort to invite them all to discussion at their own user talk pages. Reach them for both questions, suggestions and collective coordinated efforts when needed. :-)

And last but not least

Great to finally see the new layout in action. Great work! Thumbs up icon

I think it will be a lot easier to navigate around the portals and getting started editing the wiki, and continuing editing with the new layout. :-)

And when I'm at it: Great work categorising all the aircraft. I really mean it! :-)

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 04:18, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

Nice clean layout. Look forward to working with it... Openflight 07:17, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Deletion of Supported Peripherals page(s)

Hi Gijs, I was interested in looking at a list of supported joysticks, and followed a [red] link from FlightGear Hardware Recommendations to Supported Peripherals. I saw that you moved that page to Supported peripherals on April 7, 2011 at 11:46 with the comment "No need to capitalise all words in a title.", but then deleted that new page at 11:48 with the comment "deleted "Supported peripherals" ‎ (Copied)". Finally, on February 26, 2012, you deleted the original page because of "Broken redirect". This means that the page does not exist at any of the 2 locations anymore. Is there a way to get the content of the page back? Groetjes! (FYI just created my wiki account to talk to you ;) ) E2jk 17:12, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

I found one copy of the page (all lower case though) in the Wayback Machine. Maybe this could be helpful in case the deletion can't be reversed... E2jk 17:22, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

I can restore the page (nice thing about Mediawiki is that it keeps a record of deleted pages), but I won't do it. The page only contained a small list of Joysticks that have a config file under $FG_ROOT/data/Input/Joysticks. It was far from complete and it's hard to keep such lists up to date. People better check the directory to see if (their version of) FlightGear support a certain joystick.
I could be wrong of course, maybe there is a need for such a page...?
Cheers, Gijs 17:27, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
PS: The capitalisation sentence was aimed at the title, not the contents of the article.
PPS: Now that you have a wiki account, how about using it for a little more than posting on my talk page?! ;-)

I do agree that this list could be difficult to maintain, but it still is a good resource for people that are thinking about buying new hardware (as is my case). In any way, having at least a link to the folder containing the config files would be nice, IMHO.
Regarding the wiki, I've started FG for the first time today, so I'm still in full learning mode. Let's see if I have stuff to add/clarify in the coming period ;) E2jk 17:42, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Deletion of images

Hi Gijs,

any idea how I can delete images I uploaded, but I don't use anymore? --HHS 16:39, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

Not sure if "normal" users can actually do that, but if you can, it's like deleting a page. Go to the image's page, then click the little arrow next to the search field at the top right of the page and choose "Delete". If that doesn't work; add the {{delete}} template and I'll deal with it.
Cheers, Gijs 18:12, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

Ready icons missing in Infobox aircraft

The {{Ready}} template is no longer called by {{Infobox aircraft}}. For the details have a look at Template talk:Infobox aircraft#Ready icons.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 04:22, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

RE:Catalan now supported

Thank you!--Catalanoic 14:06, 26 November 2012 (EST)