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We should probably be using one of those message boxes for any translated pages, i.e. whenever a user is viewing a translated, non-English, page/article or portal, I think it is generally a good idea to point out to new users that they're using a translated version, and that the latest information is usually to be found in the English section of the wiki (ideally, linking back to it), otherwise it is easy to get the impression that the wiki is lacking content in some language - due to translated pages/portals not having as much content.--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 20:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC) | We should probably be using one of those message boxes for any translated pages, i.e. whenever a user is viewing a translated, non-English, page/article or portal, I think it is generally a good idea to point out to new users that they're using a translated version, and that the latest information is usually to be found in the English section of the wiki (ideally, linking back to it), otherwise it is easy to get the impression that the wiki is lacking content in some language - due to translated pages/portals not having as much content.--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 20:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Looking at the list of messageboxes I did the other day, [[Help:List of messagebox templates]], it seems that there is no general box to inform a reader that he is looking at a translation, where to find the original page, and how old it might be. There is definitively a need for that. | :Looking at the list of messageboxes I did the other day, [[Help:List of messagebox templates]], it seems that there is no general box to inform a reader that he is looking at a translation, where to find the original page, and how old it might be. There is definitively a need for that. | ||
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:It was by the way after I made that list of messageboxes I started this page, the need seemed urgent. I hope to, in a couple of weeks, be able to put together a meta template that will simplify creating more standardized an more functional message boxes. I am currently trying to wrap my head around some concepts that are new to me, most exotic, but probably very helpful, is category suppression. There are a few meta templates for that, see [[:Category:Namespace templates]], imported to this wiki by {{usr|Gijs}} in (November?) 2012, but many of them are yet undocumented, though I documented the easier ones tonight, and made a few extra ones. | :It was by the way after I made that list of messageboxes I started this page, the need seemed urgent. I hope to, in a couple of weeks, be able to put together a meta template that will simplify creating more standardized an more functional message boxes. I am currently trying to wrap my head around some concepts that are new to me, most exotic, but probably very helpful, is category suppression. There are a few meta templates for that, see [[:Category:Namespace templates]], imported to this wiki by {{usr|Gijs}} in (November?) 2012, but many of them are yet undocumented, though I documented the easier ones tonight, and made a few extra ones. | ||
:—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 01:58, 15 November 2013 (UTC) | :—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 01:58, 15 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
:It struck me that a translation template technically could be made that worked like follows: When added to a page lacking a translation, together with a parameter with a suitable name for the translated page, it would show a messagebox about that a translation is available and present at first a red link that when clicked would open up an edit box. | |||
:The edit box could be pre-loaded with the content of the current page, but under the name of the translated page. A category and a messagebox that informs the reader that the page is a translation could also automatically be added, as well as a messagebox telling that a translation is in progress in case an editor would not translate the whole page at once. | |||
:I think all of the above is quite possible. | |||
:—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 17:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC) | |||