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== Tools for a better "new article" interface ==
== Tools for a better "new article" interface ==


I was looking for the supertool (it seems what I want is a bot, however a lot can be done without, so it'll wait), while I saw these and thought they could be useful for a better "new article" interface:
I was looking for the supertool, while I saw these and thought they could be useful for a better "new article" interface:
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryHook Extension:CategoryHook]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryHook Extension:CategoryHook]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategorySuggest Extension:CategorySuggest]
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategorySuggest Extension:CategorySuggest]
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--[[User:Bigstones|Bigstones]] ([[User talk:Bigstones|talk]]) 22:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
--[[User:Bigstones|Bigstones]] ([[User talk:Bigstones|talk]]) 22:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


: I think bots can currently only be run by Gijs (well, obviously also Simon as the wiki admin). Given the potential damage that may result from running a bot script, I would always ask others to review/test the bot first, and maybe run it in some kind of sandbox or sub-portal. Gijs once explained the requirements for running scripted bots to me, but I haven't yet had a real need for doing so, and I don't think "normal" wiki admins have the necessary permissions.  I would agree that having some kind of article creation wizard would be kinda useful. I am still looking for a good way to unify handling for identical contents, i.e. changelog/newsletter and development announcements. But if there's anything that would be lots of work to do manually, I can help with coming up with a python bot/script to automate that (of course, we'd first of all need to agree that we want to proceed accordingly)--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 15:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
: I would agree that having some kind of article creation wizard would be kinda useful. I am still looking for a good way to unify handling for identical contents, i.e. changelog/newsletter and development announcements.--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 15:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


::: An alternative to an article creation wizard could be to pre-load a skeleton page (i.e. not a wiki template), but I do not think that would help finding a category all too much.  Personally I would prefer to have neither, but perhaps there could be a link somewhere suitable to help interested users create a page using a skeleton page?  
::: An alternative to an article creation wizard could be to pre-load a skeleton page (i.e. not a wiki template), but I do not think that would help finding a category all too much.  Personally I would prefer to have neither, but perhaps there could be a link somewhere suitable to help interested users create a page using a skeleton page?  
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:::: The file upload wizard seems to work pretty well, and a category (existing or new) could be made mandatory. There's several extensions that we could try, e.g. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 19:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:::: The file upload wizard seems to work pretty well, and a category (existing or new) could be made mandatory. There's several extensions that we could try, e.g. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 19:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
== Bot proposal (request?) ==
Talking about supertools, it seems what I want is a bot.--[[User:Bigstones|Bigstones]] ([[User talk:Bigstones|talk]]) 22:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
: I think bots can currently only be run by Gijs (well, obviously also Simon as the wiki admin). Given the potential damage that may result from running a bot script, I would always ask others to review/test the bot first, and maybe run it in some kind of sandbox or sub-portal. Gijs once explained the requirements for running scripted bots to me, but I haven't yet had a real need for doing so, and I don't think "normal" wiki admins have the necessary permissions. But if there's anything that would be lots of work to do manually, I can help with coming up with a python bot/script to automate that (of course, we'd first of all need to agree that we want to proceed accordingly)--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 15:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC) (moved by --[[User:Bigstones|Bigstones]] ([[User talk:Bigstones|talk]]) 20:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC))


:: There is actually something easy that a bot could do right now, in fact I was just reading on bots and found a java framework (I don't know python), although not looking forward for that... so I really appreciate your offer. I'm talking about point 5.1 in the above [[#Approaching CategoryTree]], I quote them:
:: There is actually something easy that a bot could do right now, in fact I was just reading on bots and found a java framework (I don't know python), although not looking forward for that... so I really appreciate your offer. I'm talking about point 5.1 in the above [[#Approaching CategoryTree]], I quote them:
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