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:: You misunderstood me, and partly that is my fault as I didn't clarify my point very well. There are two restrictions: that the heading that we would remove has to be the first heading in the article (so not some random heading in the middle – this is since introductions are always done at the beginning of the article) and that we would remove it only if there was no text before it (e.g. see the edit I linked to above, the heading was essentially on line #1 when leaving out the whitespace). The first restriction is actually redundant ;), but they are designed to identify what headings have a body that is introducing the article (though some articles, ~cough~, don't have introductions, and so we would have to revert the bot edits there and possibly add an introduction – that's the manual part of the process). What I'm saying is that in those cases there doesn't ''need'' to be a heading there, and in fact that it works better by removing that heading, because the top of the page is implicitly an "introduction" anyways. [[User:Philosopher|—Philosopher]] ([[User talk:Philosopher|talk]]) 19:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | :: You misunderstood me, and partly that is my fault as I didn't clarify my point very well. There are two restrictions: that the heading that we would remove has to be the first heading in the article (so not some random heading in the middle – this is since introductions are always done at the beginning of the article) and that we would remove it only if there was no text before it (e.g. see the edit I linked to above, the heading was essentially on line #1 when leaving out the whitespace). The first restriction is actually redundant ;), but they are designed to identify what headings have a body that is introducing the article (though some articles, ~cough~, don't have introductions, and so we would have to revert the bot edits there and possibly add an introduction – that's the manual part of the process). What I'm saying is that in those cases there doesn't ''need'' to be a heading there, and in fact that it works better by removing that heading, because the top of the page is implicitly an "introduction" anyways. [[User:Philosopher|—Philosopher]] ([[User talk:Philosopher|talk]]) 19:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::I actually ''did'' understand you, but thanks for the clarification anyway. I did also get that a bot of course would not remove a heading if there was a section before it without a heading. :-P | |||
:::I think we are pretty much at the same wavelength. In the wast majority of cases this could be done with a bot, but in some cases the first section would either be missing or be too long to plough through just to see if one landed on the right page. | |||
:::What I am worrying about is the extra work and sometimes forgotten work in those cases where the introduction is missing or too long. Maybe the pages changed by the bot could be added to a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories#Hidden_categories hidden category], say [[:Category:Pages with first section needing review]] (with a short explanation on the category page), so the pages more easily can be gone through after the bot is done? (That would mean removing the extra category from all pages that was ok though.) | |||
:::—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 20:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||