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: But as it is now I have no reason, nor motivation to continue. Thanks...
: But as it is now I have no reason, nor motivation to continue. Thanks...
: [[User:I4dnf|I4dnf]] 14:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
: [[User:I4dnf|I4dnf]] 14:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
:: Hi, I do understand that you are frustrated and maybe disappointed. We've all felt like that, and most FlightGear contributors have gone through this at least once because of FlightGear's "development model". But please keep in mind that you are basically asking for a consensus, i.e. a formal decision to support a certain point of view (yours in this case). And you are doing that even though you are fully aware of the way the FlightGear project works, and has been working for over a decade. There's no single entity to provide the form of support and encouragement that you are looking for now, and you surely know that very well. You have been a contributor for many years, so you've seen similar situations in the past, with other people being involved. And you have probably seen other people disagreeing with eachother, very strongly. And you have surely also seen some really instrumental and important people acting in a similar way, who were obviously also just trying to enforce a change, out of disappointment. Changes are not going to happen like that obviously, we know that from experience. But the unfortunate truth is that whenever some long-term contributor decides to draw this very card, i.e. to threaten abandoning the project, quitting and possibly even revoking his/her contributions otherwise, you are giving much more power to the very people you are disagreeing with. I don't know if you were around when the PLIB to OSG migration was performed, or when the property tree vector additions were controversially discussed - but whenever someone acted like this, it didn't go too well, we have countless of other examples for this. Abandoning the project or revoking contributions has never been a fruitful option obviously to be honest. So, I'm really surprised that you are even trying this now. Just look at other people who have left the project for similar reasons, and who were truly instrumental because they wrote code and reviewed patches - i.e. core developers: The original goals have never been accomplished, but the very people that they disagreed with in the first place, ended up with "more power" in the end because of that. As you know, there's no real "project manager" or even a "project coordinator" - the FlightGear project is self-managed and it is largely driven and steered by the people who are active contributors. Whenever we decide to stop contributing to the project because of something someone else has said, we are giving much more power to that particular individual than he/she deserves, no matter of the track record of contributions. Honestly, you have been around long enough to know that some of the most-seasoned core developers and other instrumental contributors have openly disagreed very strongly with other key contributors, yet, they somehow managed to stick around despite such irritations. I really believe that we are putting harm to the project whenever we are pursuing the option of revoking our contributions just because of some more or less strong disagreements.--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] 16:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


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