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== Your aircraft removal request (02/2013) ==
== Your aircraft removal request (02/2013) ==
Hi, I'm referring to your request at [http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=IAR_80&oldid=58181]. I do know that previous contributors from France have made similar requests in the past (and that they were complied with), but according to the GPL there's really no right to revoke our GPL'ed contributions like that. According to my understanding, Curt has only complied with such requests in the past out of mutual respect and politeness, and to prevent even more disturbing flame wars on the devel list (cf GrTux). The point of the GPL is all about freedom, freedom which you are trying to take away from FlightGear by acting like that now. Reserving the right to have contributions revoked at a later time makes the whole GPL kinda moot, right ? Honestly, even if I were to go to jail tomorrow, were to be overrun by a bus or died in an airplane crash next week, none of this should have any effect on my past FlightGear contributions, especially the ones that were explicitly licensed under the GPL or under a similarly permissive license (which applies to all wiki contributions). Obviously some people have a tendency to get all dramatic once they disagree with other key contributors and feel inclined to either abandon the project temporarily or even revoke their contributors altogether, we've seen that more than once in the past - and it's probably going to happen again. After all, we are all human beings and getting emotional is a part of it (for some moreso than others obviously). But at the end of the day, this is obviously the most immature way to respond in such situations, and it's also the most harmful modus operandi for the project, simply because it automatically questions all our previously GPL'ed FlightGear contributions as a whole, and thus the point of the GPL in general, and the point of the FlightGear project in its entirety. Disagreeing with other community members (no matter if artwork contributors or core developers) should never be an incentive to stop contributing to FG, or to even consider dropping FlightGear as a whole - let alone revoking past contributions. Obviously none of this is to belittle your awesome contributions,  but just imagine for a second that we (i.e. the project) were seriously to adopt this practice and comply with such requests in the future: It would basically be the end of FlightGear, especially once not "only" artwork contributors but also core developers were making such requests. Please just try to imagine for a second how FlightGear's development model (and the GPL it is based on) really works, and then ask yourself if we really want to encourage having a development model where our key contributors may reserve the right to act like teenagers or even drama queens just to have their own agenda enforced, because they find themselves not in agreement with other important contributors ? If you are serious about revoking your contributions, please get in touch with Curt, who will have the final say obviously -because he's the one who manages the website. Otherwise, I'll just assume that this merely an attempt to get more attention, which is obviously a long-standing instrument among some FlightGear contributors under certain circumstances. I sincerely hope that you'll reconsider your decision and refrain from deleting any of your contributions here. All the best, --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] 14:35, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm referring to your request at [http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=IAR_80&oldid=58181]. I do know that previous contributors from France have made similar requests in the past (and that they were complied with), but according to the GPL there's really no right to revoke our GPL'ed contributions like that. According to my understanding, Curt has only complied with such requests in the past out of mutual respect and politeness, and to prevent even more disturbing flame wars on the devel list (cf GrTux). The point of the GPL is all about freedom, freedom which you are trying to take away from FlightGear by acting like that now. Reserving the right to have contributions revoked at a later time makes the whole GPL kinda moot, right ? Honestly, even if I were to go to jail tomorrow, were to be overrun by a bus or died in an airplane crash next week, none of this should have any effect on my past FlightGear contributions, especially the ones that were explicitly licensed under the GPL or under a similarly permissive license (which applies to all wiki contributions). Obviously some people have a tendency to get all dramatic once they disagree with other key contributors and feel inclined to either abandon the project temporarily or even revoke their contributors altogether, we've seen that more than once in the past - and it's probably going to happen again. After all, we are all human beings and getting emotional is a part of it (for some moreso than others obviously). But at the end of the day, this is obviously the most immature way to respond in such situations, and it's also the most harmful modus operandi for the project, simply because it automatically questions all our previously GPL'ed FlightGear contributions as a whole, and thus the point of the GPL in general, and the point of the FlightGear project in its entirety. Disagreeing with other community members (no matter if artwork contributors or core developers) should never be an incentive to stop contributing to FG, or to even consider dropping FlightGear as a whole - let alone revoking past contributions. Obviously none of this is to belittle your awesome contributions,  but just imagine for a second that we (i.e. the project) were seriously to adopt this practice and comply with such requests in the future: It would basically be the end of FlightGear, especially once not "only" artwork contributors but also core developers were making such requests. Please just try to imagine for a second how FlightGear's development model (and the GPL it is based on) really works, and then ask yourself if we really want to encourage having a development model where our key contributors may reserve the right to act like teenagers or even drama queens just to have their own agenda enforced, because they find themselves not in agreement with other important contributors ? If you are serious about revoking your contributions, please get in touch with Curt, who will have the final say obviously -because he's the one who manages the website. Otherwise, I'll just assume that this merely an attempt to get more attention, which is obviously a long-standing instrument among some FlightGear contributors under certain circumstances. I sincerely hope that you'll reconsider your decision and refrain from deleting any of your contributions here. All the best, --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] 14:35, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
: I am the original author of that work, it is not used by anything else, hasn't been changed by anyone else in the current form, it contains controversial content, and I don't intend to maintain it any longer.
: Until the copyright law changes, it is within my right to revoke something that I've created, and which I no longer find suitable for public use. Without the copyright law, and it's effects, there would be no GPL, so the GPL point is rather moot.
: And yes, you can see it as a form of protest, against the anarchy, and lack of resolution that's governing FG right now. But as it is now I have no reason, nor motivation to continue. Thanks [[User:I4dnf|I4dnf]] 14:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


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