FlightGear wiki:Quoting Guidelines
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Formalize how to use quoting on the wiki and establish a set of guidelines to be followed. Provide a sane migration path for existing articles and pages consisting primarily of quotes, without losing significant information.
The wiki is not intended to be a collection of quotes - however, there are numerous articles that haven't been updated in months, or even in years, where quotes may be the only useful "updates" for the time being. Equally, there are undocumented features or articles that got successfully bootstrapped via quote-based articles. Meanwhile, there's a huge number of articles that contain so called cquotes, that were bootstrapped using quotes or that still consist primarily of quotes (usually added via Instant-Cquotes).
In summary, quoting is considered a fairly controversial thing, because quotes are generally poor documentation, but still considered better than no documentation/updates at all.
To provide some context, here a few examples of articles that are more or less heavily using quotes:
Bootstrapped using quotes
- High-Level Architecture
- Howto:Using FlightGear as an Image Generator (IG)
- Graphics Card Profiles
- Integrated Qt5 Launcher
- Canvas MapStructure
- Phi (currently in progress, by Jaxsin)
- Provide a template that allows wiki contributors to veto the addition of quotes to "their" articles (provided they are actively maintained/updated)
- Use a different style/formatting
- Use a separate place for quotes (talk page)
- Use a standard section/paragraph for related discussions
- Use a separate namespace for quote-collections ?
Template for vetoing the adding of quotes
- Could be something, but it would be better if more time was spent so that the article would be read and the quotes would be added if and where they would be needed. —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 17:33, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
Using a different style
- Could maybe possibly be put in a collapsible template only showing a short summary. Will still be briefly shown when the page is loaded though. —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 17:33, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
Putting the quotes on the talk page
- Probably a good idea, as they often can be considered as suggestions for improvement of the article one way or another. —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 17:33, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
Using a standard section for quotes
- I think it would be a good guideline, though probably on the talk page unless needed to illustrate a point. —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 17:33, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
- I am torn on that, I agree with Richard's posting on the forum, and I feel a standard "Related" section would make sense, and depending on the scope/size, a separate page/paragraph may be warranted. Hooray (talk) 17:44, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
Using a separate namespace for quotes
- No, no, no. Absolutely no. This could be done in two ways, as a prefix but still in the main namespace (what sometimes on English Wikipedia is called a user maintained namespace), or as an actual namespace. I think this would be messy and inelegant either way. The quotes intended as pints to add to an article should be more closely attached to the article. Additionally, using a separate namespace makes things like some of the namespace templates break, and further, make these pages not found unless opting to search those namespaces as well. —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 17:33, 21 March 2016 (EDT)
- quoting on the wiki 20 March 2016 –
Mailing list threads
- [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Quotes 17 March 2016 –