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== Idea: Suggested flights with stars ==
=="Talk:Eurocopter EC135" (Author request: Author blanked page)==


How 'bout this idea... Make a star rating system thingy for [[Suggested Flights]]? A template with 0 to 5 stars we could add to a flight so that users can rate the flight.
Did I miss something? Can't remember seen that...
I dunno how to make it else I would... :)
Can you tell what it was about?
[[User:PH-JBO|PH-JBO]] 19:38, 22 December 2011 (EST)
Cheers --[[User:HHS|HHS]] 12:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
: We could use the rating system that is used for aircraft/airports, but that'll  require each flight to be on a special page; which is quite a hassle IMO. Don't know of any other option right now...
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 16:24, 23 December 2011 (EST)


== Renaming newly categorised files ==
: Hi,
: F-JJTH wrote " Heiko, is V1.0 full "Rembrandt compatible" ?" on the page but blanked it shortly thereafter. I think he found the answer already... So all I did was delete that blank page.
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 16:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)


I saw in [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]] that you have renamed many of the files that I have categorised, and I just want to say: {{thumbs up|13}} Thank you! --[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] 15:15, 14 February 2012 (EST)
==About the wiki..==
: Not intentionally only files that you categorised (apparently you categorised ALL file :P), but files that had the basic fgfs-screen names, which is very very bad...
Hi Gijs, hope all is well. I was stopping by because I noticed the words "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view. " in the editor. Its really not right to say this, because the FlightGear wiki has to be a "primary source". The contributions are typically original writing, and it specifically includes opinions (such as reviews), as well as first-hand accounts. Thank you. [[User:Fg|Fg]] 20:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
: I'd like to thank you for all the hard work you're doing on the wiki these days. Good to see some more activity!
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 15:17, 14 February 2012 (EST)
:: I didn't really categorise ''all'' files (there's still about 1400 to go...), but thank you anyway. ;-) —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:07, 13 March 2012 (EDT)


== Template documentation ==


Just a heads up.
The wiki is mostly a primary source, saying "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. .. " makes no sense. Most of what is written here is orginal content, and it does not make sense to have this in the edit box. Also, I don't agree with many of the articles you have deleted. These are small issues in view of your large contributions to the project, and I want to thank you for those, but I must also bring up these issues. Thanks again.  [[User:Fg|Fg]] ([[User talk:Fg|talk]]) 20:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
: Hi,
: You're right about the "external sources" statement. That was just a default from MediaWiki but is not very applicable to our wiki. I've removed it now. Thanks for notifying me!
: What is it that you don't agree with? Is it the airport articles? Those were not deleted yet, they were only marked for deletion. The notice mentioned why I think they should be deleted. Feel free to share your arguments that make you think they should be kept. As the template stated "Do not remove this tag until the discussion is closed.", so I've placed the templates back and am looking forward to your (argued) opinion.
: Cheers,
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 17:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
::Great, thanks for fixing that! Come to think of it "Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." may also be unneeded, as we have sections for reviews (with opinions) of aircraft, etc. but I will leave that up to you. I will check out the articles for deletion again. Thank you. [[User:Fg|Fg]] ([[User talk:Fg|talk]]) 22:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


While having a bit less presence in the FlightGear community (probably a bit of recoil from straining myself, but also due to real life) for a while I drop in now and then for a peek on the Wiki.
== Adding the village pump to the sidebar or not ==


Recently I noticed that one of my sup-pages ([http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=User:Johan_G/Wiki_improvement&oldid=40953 User:Johan G/Wiki improvement]) was a bit different, but noticed I'm the only one editing there.  Checking the used templates gave the explanation. Specifically the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=Template:Tl&diff=42423&oldid=40924 tl]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template. ;-)
I have been pondering adding the village pump to the sidebar. I would probably add it between Recent changes and Random page. I have read in a bit on the sidebar on the MediaWiki help pages, but before I actually do it I want to ask you about your opinion about doing that.


The biggest pros and cons as I see it is that anyone will find it so it will be used a bit more, but at the same time that those that will not even read a few sentences of text (including people not comfortably reading English) sometimes will go there for help on using the simulator itself instead of going to the forum.


When you add the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Informative template|informative template]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, make sure you leave the <code><nowiki><noinclude></nowiki></code> tag where it was.  If you add empty lines and/or spaces, those will be added each time the the template is used with unwanted results.  Remember that a space in the beginning of a line will put that remaining text on that line in a "code box". ;-)
So what do you think about it?


—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 09:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


''In this specific case the previous edit looked like this,''
: Hi,
: how about creating a "Wiki" header that contains the "Recent changes" and "Help" links? It could then also have a link to the village pump. I don't think we should call it "Village pump" though, as probably no-one will guess that's a place to talk about the wiki ;-) Something like "Wiki discussions" or so is more descriptive...
: Cheers, [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 13:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


  <nowiki>{{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}}<noinclude></nowiki>
:: I have been thinking of changing the name of that page as well. "Village pump" is used on WikiMedia Commons, the Swedish Wikipedia (though translated) and probably a few other wikis so someone coming from one of those places would be at home with it, but not everyone are from those places.
...
:: I have in the past considered suggesting changing it into say "Editor lounge" or rather something aviation related, but for instance "Pilot lounge" would have been so horribly misleading. ;-)
:: A "Wiki" header will help organise the contents but might hide contents by default, but hopefully people are curious enough to spend a few seconds looking around.
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 19:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
::: Went ahead and added a link in the sidebar titled "[[FlightGear wiki:Village pump|Discuss!]]".
::: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 13:58, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


''while the new edit looked like this (spaces represented by underscores),''
== Help with Fatal error: Class 'Services_JSON' /CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php on line 224 Error ==


<nowiki>{{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}}_</nowiki>
Gijs
_
<nowiki><noinclude></nowiki>
...


''The result is that''
I saw you had mentioned the issue with the JSON class. I was wondering if you ever found a resolution for this problem. I support a wiki group and have been suffering for the last month trying to resolve this issue.  I would be grateful for any help.
  The template <nowiki>{{</nowiki>informative template<nowiki>}}</nowiki> is a template documenting templates.


''instead of being rendered like this,''
I am running mediawiki 1.22  with php 5.3.10


The template <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Informative template|informative template]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> is a template documenting templates.
On another note, I have been flying RC planes and gliders for years. I have wanted to get a simulator program. Would this be a good one to start with ?


''got rendered like this:''


The template <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Informative template|informative template]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
is a template documenting templates


Many Thanks


Otherwise I see that you are doing a wonderful job.{{thumbs up}}  Just don't strain yourself, will you. :-)
Peter


[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:49, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
: Hi Peter,
: like I said at [[FlightGear wiki:Village pump#Found bugs]]
: "The CategoryTree extension relies on a function that was removed as of 1.22.0, so the extensions needs some fixing. I've disabled it for now."
: So my solution was to disable it. The extension itself needs fixing to work with more recent version of MediaWiki, that's not something I intended to do ;-)
: And yes, FlightGear would be a good simulator to start (and even stick) with. I'm biased though...
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 09:56, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


== Unsigned template + Archive pages ==
== Two bot jobs – Moving categories to plural form ==


I had been thinking of moving {{tl|unsigned2}} to {{tl|unsigned}} for a while, but not done itGood idea to keep the redirection page.
Hello Gijs, I got stumbled upon a request for a bot job that I added to [[User talk:BotFlightGear#Moving Category:List and Category:Resource to titles in plural form|User talk:BotFlightGear]] a while agoJust a gentle reminder. ;-)


On a totally different matter, when you get to the point when you consider your talk page is to long I hope that you do not delete parts of it, but instead move it to a archive in the form of a subpage, in case you or someone else want to have a look on it in the future.
The requested moves are intended to be a part of trying to make the category names more logical and harder to mistype etc.


—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 07:03, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 14:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


==Deleting of a user page?==
: Thanks for the reminder. He's [http://wiki.flightgear.org/Special:Contributions/BotFlightGear running]!
Hi Gijs, erm, I see you deleted my User Page? umm.. Why?
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 15:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
--[[User:Sebasgokart|Sebasgokart]] 10:24, 24 March 2012 (EDT)


: It was deleted because someone else wrote down some discussion about your VA edits being spamlinks or not. Apart from that there was no content on the page, so it was deleted (all the way back in October!!).
:: Thank you kindly. :-)
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 12:07, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 15:48, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


== Article considered for deletion ==
== 06/2014 newsletter: too much of a mess ==
Hi Gijs, my page is also suggest for being deleted because aparently, someone want to make a page with all the VA which does already exist !
So, I ask you (or if you have good reason) not to delete my articles because it's really anoying to make everyday the same roll-back on the page.
Thx, [[User:Bastien.D|Bastien.D]] 20:00 01 April 2012 (EDT)


: Please see my message on your talk page: [[User talk:Bastien.D#Removing templates]]
: [http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=FlightGear_Newsletter_June_2014&curid=12417&diff=73490&oldid=73455 Use new templates; cleanup (except for Canvas stuff, which is too much of a mess right now))]
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 16:10, 1 April 2012 (EDT)


== Virtual airline template ==
:: Please feel free to clean up or just remove the "mess". I realize that it's messy (Thorsten also said so recently), I added those things when we didn't have a whole lot of content, and I didn't bother writing anything from scratch, I just took stuff from the forum using the [[Instant-Cquotes]] script, which is why it's a bit  "messy". <small>But if you should decide to clean it up, I'll volunteer to help cleaning up navdisplay.mfd::update() on your behalf</small> ;-) --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 16:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


{{thumbs up}} Thank you for the work on [http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=Template:Virtual_airline_summary&oldid=46998 Template:Virtual airline summary]! I could not have done it better for at least a couple of weeks. :-D —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 15:21, 9 April 2012 (EDT)
::: Hi,
::: There's not just instant cquotes, but also sections with no text at all. Garmin and Aircraft Center for example. I don't know how someone who hasn't been following the progress is supposed to make sense out of that; which is why I think you're the best person to work on it.
:::: When I close the newsletter and "publish" it, I usually make sure the layout is somewhat readable. Right now that job would require more time than I have and/or would like to spend.
::: Cheers,
::: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 19:27, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


== Missing GPL logo image ==
:::: I've added instant-cquotes content from the corresponding wiki articles. Sorry for the mess, and thanks for the new newsletter layout - even though it's a bit awkward to edit now, can we still edit individual sections directly please ?--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 19:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


I noticed that the image for the GLP v.2 logo at the bottom right of every page is missing, but I do not know for how long it has been missing.  I do not know where I should point you to help you fix it, yet, but on the source for a downloaded page it is located as below (note the empty <code>src</code> attribute):
::::: Hey, good job - that looks indeed much better. I was wondering if we should slightly extend the template, and then simply port [[Instant-cquotes]] to optionally create tailored sections for the newsletter, i.e. without the cquote, and using galleries, what do you think ?--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 20:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


<syntaxhighlight lang="html4strict">
:::::: With the new section titles (that come with an author field), we don't need those quotes to make clear who's saying stuff. I've changed them to running texts now, which is a lot nicer to read IMO. Doing that on the first run is a lot easier than doing it later on, as I had to dig up the posts, get acquainted with the subject etc. The script you're using adds quite some nasty HTML to the wiki (treating normal urls as wiki links, adding dozens of <nowiki><br/></nowiki>, ignoring bullet lists), so I would suggest to not use it on large scale for now. If you can change it to produce running texts with correct wiki markup it would be a whole lot better ;-)
<!-- footer -->
:::::: I'll have a look if we can re-enable sectional edits. Removing that was definitely unintended. My intention was to make the newsletter a little more appealing and less of an ordinary wiki article.
  <div id="footer">
:::::: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 20:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
    ...
    <img src="" alt="GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991" width="88" height="31"/>
    ...
  </div>
<!-- /footer -->
</syntaxhighlight>


—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 05:18, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
:: right, what I am more concerned about is proper crediting-I already added Tom's nick twice there, because I wasn't involved in the development of the [[Aircraft Center]], I merely posted some updates on the forum-which is why the cquotes script used my nick, and it was obvious that it was just a quote-now it looked like I was announcing my own work. But obviously the credit should go to TheTom & Zakalawe. The changes you suggest should be straightforward still. --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 20:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
: I think it's never been there actually. MediaWiki templates do not support the GPL (by default), so it failed to display an icon. But I've removed it now. Will adjust the copyright text slightly as well.
: Thanks! [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 05:42, 15 April 2012 (EDT)


== Delete article about non-existing partnership ==
::: The new "By" tag is not meant to be used to credit the person that the section is about. It is meant to show who's written that section. So if you write something about Tom's work, your name ends up under the tile "By Hooray". Tom's name will end up in the text, where you can something along the lines of "Thanks to Tom's recent work...". Some people are not happy with articles that appear to have been written by them when they are not.
Hi Gijs, Through this message on behalf of the group fgbr denuciar (Unitedfreeworld) be using our name in a partnership to build the 747-8i does not exist.
::: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 20:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
We ask that meets our request and delete the Wiki page that is in putting the group fgbr as a partner working with (Unitedfreeworld).
Here is the page created for them: [[Boeing 747-8i]]


Thank you for your attention.
:: ok, thanks for clarifying - maybe we should simply make it '''Written by ''' (and '''Developed by''') then to be on the safe side, i.e. change the template accordingly ? --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 21:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
:: And just to be clear about it, I totally appreciate your work here, and I am looking forward to seeing if we can find a way to generalize the concept and reuse it for the changelog, even if that should just mean to partially include contents from 6 newsletters in it (as per [[FlightGear_wiki:Village_pump#Template_for_announcement_of_changes_and_new_features]]).--[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 21:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


The Group FGBr thanks.
== Livery texture aspect ratio ==
My prefix is ​​BR-WAG contact.


{{unsigned|07:21, 22 April 2012‎|Wagner Silva}}
Did you accidentally remove the paragraph about that all liveries for an aircraft have to have the same aspect ratio in [http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=Howto:Edit_a_livery&diff=74832&oldid=74831 this edit]?


: Hi,
Apart from that thanks for catching and fixing my ''very'' old error, n<sup>2</sup> &rarr; 2<sup>n</sup> ;-)
: feel free to remove UnitedFreeworld from the author tag. It's a wiki after all ;-) I see no reason the remove the article, just because there is one little fault in it...
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 07:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
: PS: Please sign messages on talk pages with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> and do not overwrite existing discussions. Instead, click the "Add topic" link at the top of the screen to add a new subject.


== Old galleries and seemingly unused images ==
—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 15:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


Just a heads-up. You probably should do a search before you delete unused images. I noticed that there are a lot of older galleries like e.g. [[FlightGear Newsletter January 2011#New aircraft]] that is not rendering the images. The file description pages will therefore indicate that the images are not in use.
: No, it was deliberate. UVmaps use coordinates like 0.3*width, 0*heigth instead of absolute values (eg. 3rd pixel up, 15th pixel to the right). That's also why you can replace textures with different resolutions without having to edit the mapping.
: You'll probably get an overly stretched texture (since pixels will beno longer "squares", as in the most likely ideal original mapping), but it is not impossible or principally wrong ;-)
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 16:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


The failed galleries might be a candidate for a bot job.
:: Thanks for the explanation.
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:58, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan G|contribs]]) 03:56, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
== Strange infobox image bug ==
I recently found a very strange bug I can not wrap my head around.  It appears that an image from English Wikipedia is used instead of an image with the identical name on this wiki.


: Hm, thought I fixed them all. Thanks!
When I looked at the rather new page {{plink|Yakovlev Yak-130|76122}} as well as the page I moved it from, I noticed that the aircraft picture is a photo and was about to edit the file page. Instead of seeing a photo on the file page I see a FlightGear screenshot [[:File:Yak-130.jpg]].  The {{tl|infobox aircraft}} seems to be as it should be.  Going to English Wikipedia and looking for the image I find the very same image as I see rendered on the page, {{wikipedia|File:Yak-130.jpg}}.
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 07:05, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


== The new main page layout ==
I have no idea what is going on.


==== A few suggestions ====
[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 11:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
* Please add [[Portal:Wiki]] to the Portals in the left-hand menu.  (I guess you simply forgot to do that ;-)
* I strongly feel that there should be one single meeting place that is quickly and easily found, ''preferably not on a talk page''.  See rationale below.


==== Rationale for a single meeting place ====
: Hi,
:''I'm sorry if you would feel that I am a bit pushy about this, but I feel this is very important.''
: that seems to be an unwanted side-effect of [[mw:InstantCommons]]. In principle this shouldn't conflict, but I suspect someone did load the Commons image before uploading the one to our wiki. Thus, the Commons one ended up in the thumbnail cache.
: I've now disabled this feature, as I don't think we use it anywhere on the wiki. Not even sure why it was enabled in the first place...
: Cheers,
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 14:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


For a newcomer there doesn't seem to be a Village pump equivalent, where they can get a feel for the wiki community and ask their very first questions.
:: Thanks for the help. I would not even have imagined.
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 16:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


There are in fact several places, apart from [irc://#wiki@irc.flightgear.org #wiki@irc.flightgear.org] (wich is currently not mentioned on [[Portal:Wiki]]), used in a similar way (that may or may not be intended for that purpose), some of them being:
== PA32 deleted ==
* [[Talk:Main Page]]
* [[FlightGear wiki talk:Community portal]]
* [[Help talk:Contents]]
* Your own user talk page ?


The biggest drawback with having such a place on a talk page is that you either have to know it's there, or you more or less have to find it by accident. Also having the more general discussion spread over several (slightly obscure) places add an element of confusion:  How would one know where to ask questions, and would anyone have a look there to answer them?
Hi  


Maybe the statistics on [[FlightGear wiki:Community portal]] could be moved to a separate page, and [[FlightGear wiki talk:Community portal]] could be moved to [[FlightGear wiki:Community portal]]?
Noticed this is deleted - not enough info or inappropriate? Pls let me know. I have set myself a  personal goal to review over 35 civil aviation aircraft and upload screenshots.


A single place for discussion, that is quickly and simply found, would make it easier to reach all of the more active editors without having to resort to invite them all to discussion at their own user talk pages. Reach them for both questions, suggestions and collective coordinated efforts when needed. :-)
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=Piper_PA-32&action=edit&redlink=1


==== And last but not least ====
[[User:Openflight|Openflight]] ([[User talk:Openflight|talk]]) 01:26, 18 September 2015 (EDT)
Great to finally see the new layout in action.  Great work!  {{thumbs up}}


I think it will be a lot easier to navigate around the portals and getting started editing the wiki, and continuing editing with the new layout. :-)
: Not enough info (nothing FlightGear specific). The only content was "The Piper PA 32 is a single engined aircraft built by Piper." That's not what our wiki is for ;-) Feel free to restart the article if you've got more to write now.
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 02:30, 18 September 2015 (EDT)


And when I'm at it: Great work categorising all the aircraft. I really mean it! :-)
Sure will do, thanks.  [[User:Openflight|Openflight]] ([[User talk:Openflight|talk]]) 02:44, 18 September 2015 (EDT)




—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 04:18, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
== Adding Table of Aircraft to Wiki page ==


Hi, if it's ok , will edit Wiki home page and add link to table of aircraft as follows:


Nice clean layout. Look forward to working with it...
Using
[[User:Openflight|Openflight]] 07:17, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
New to FlightGear
 
Frequently asked questions • Troubleshooting • List of aircraft •
== Deletion of Supported Peripherals page(s) ==
Installing scenery • Installing aircraft
 
Helicopter flying
Hi Gijs, I was interested in looking at a list of supported joysticks, and followed a [red] link from [[FlightGear Hardware Recommendations]] to [[Supported Peripherals]]. I saw that you moved that page to [[Supported peripherals]] on April 7, 2011 at 11:46 with the comment "No need to capitalise all words in a title.", but then deleted that new page at 11:48 with the comment "deleted "Supported peripherals" ‎ (Copied)". Finally, on February 26, 2012, you deleted the original page because of "Broken redirect". This means that the page does not exist at any of the 2 locations anymore. Is there a way to get the content of the page back? Groetjes! (FYI just created my wiki account to talk to you ;) ) [[User:E2jk|E2jk]] 17:12, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
 
:I found one copy of the page (all lower case though) in the [http://web.archive.org/web/20100831112110/http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Supported_Peripherals Wayback Machine]. Maybe this could be helpful in case the deletion can't be reversed... [[User:E2jk|E2jk]] 17:22, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
 
 
: Hi,
: I can restore the page (nice thing about Mediawiki is that it keeps a record of deleted pages), but I won't do it. The page only contained a small list of Joysticks that have a config file under <tt>[[$FG_ROOT]]/data/Input/Joysticks</tt>. It was far from complete and it's hard to keep such lists up to date. People better check the directory to see if (their version of) FlightGear support a certain joystick.
: I could be wrong of course, maybe there is a need for such a page...?
: Cheers, [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 17:27, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
: PS: The capitalisation sentence was aimed at the title, not the contents of the article.
: PPS: Now that you have a wiki account, how about using it for a little more than posting on my talk page?! ;-)


My concern is those new to Flight Gear do not get to see the list of aircraft and the aircraft detaisl right away from Wiki home page or FG home page


::I do agree that this list could be difficult to maintain, but it still is a good resource for people that are thinking about buying new hardware (as is my case). In any way, having at least a link to the folder containing the config files would be nice, IMHO.
== Wrong link ==


::Regarding the wiki, I've started FG for the first time today, so I'm still in full learning mode. Let's see if I have stuff to add/clarify in the coming period ;) [[User:E2jk|E2jk]] 17:42, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
Hi Gijs!
You still have a link for our Gitorius account you know.


==Deletion of images==
== Red Leader's pygments Nasal lexer  ==
Hi Gijs,


any idea how I can delete images I uploaded, but I don't use anymore?
Hi Gijs, referring to Red Leader's work at [http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_wiki:Village_pump#Nasal_Syntaxhighlighting], is there any way we/I can help to get this applied ? If you are too busy to handle/review this currently, can we get in touch with someone else who's got the corresponding access/privileges on the wiki (Curt, Simon?). Thanks --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 09:19, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
--[[User:HHS|HHS]] 16:39, 31 July 2012 (EDT)


: Hey,
BUMP ?
: Not sure if "normal" users can actually do that, but if you can, it's like deleting a page. Go to the image's page, then click the little arrow next to the search field at the top right of the page and choose "Delete". If that doesn't work; add the {{tl|delete}} template and I'll deal with it.
: Cheers, [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] 18:12, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

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"Talk:Eurocopter EC135" (Author request: Author blanked page)

Did I miss something? Can't remember seen that... Can you tell what it was about? Cheers --HHS 12:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi,
F-JJTH wrote " Heiko, is V1.0 full "Rembrandt compatible" ?" on the page but blanked it shortly thereafter. I think he found the answer already... So all I did was delete that blank page.
Gijs 16:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

About the wiki..

Hi Gijs, hope all is well. I was stopping by because I noticed the words "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view. " in the editor. Its really not right to say this, because the FlightGear wiki has to be a "primary source". The contributions are typically original writing, and it specifically includes opinions (such as reviews), as well as first-hand accounts. Thank you. Fg 20:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)


The wiki is mostly a primary source, saying "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. .. " makes no sense. Most of what is written here is orginal content, and it does not make sense to have this in the edit box. Also, I don't agree with many of the articles you have deleted. These are small issues in view of your large contributions to the project, and I want to thank you for those, but I must also bring up these issues. Thanks again. Fg (talk) 20:32, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi,
You're right about the "external sources" statement. That was just a default from MediaWiki but is not very applicable to our wiki. I've removed it now. Thanks for notifying me!
What is it that you don't agree with? Is it the airport articles? Those were not deleted yet, they were only marked for deletion. The notice mentioned why I think they should be deleted. Feel free to share your arguments that make you think they should be kept. As the template stated "Do not remove this tag until the discussion is closed.", so I've placed the templates back and am looking forward to your (argued) opinion.
Cheers,
Gijs (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks for fixing that! Come to think of it "Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." may also be unneeded, as we have sections for reviews (with opinions) of aircraft, etc. but I will leave that up to you. I will check out the articles for deletion again. Thank you. Fg (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Adding the village pump to the sidebar or not

I have been pondering adding the village pump to the sidebar. I would probably add it between Recent changes and Random page. I have read in a bit on the sidebar on the MediaWiki help pages, but before I actually do it I want to ask you about your opinion about doing that.

The biggest pros and cons as I see it is that anyone will find it so it will be used a bit more, but at the same time that those that will not even read a few sentences of text (including people not comfortably reading English) sometimes will go there for help on using the simulator itself instead of going to the forum.

So what do you think about it?

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 09:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi,
how about creating a "Wiki" header that contains the "Recent changes" and "Help" links? It could then also have a link to the village pump. I don't think we should call it "Village pump" though, as probably no-one will guess that's a place to talk about the wiki ;-) Something like "Wiki discussions" or so is more descriptive...
Cheers, Gijs (talk) 13:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I have been thinking of changing the name of that page as well. "Village pump" is used on WikiMedia Commons, the Swedish Wikipedia (though translated) and probably a few other wikis so someone coming from one of those places would be at home with it, but not everyone are from those places.
I have in the past considered suggesting changing it into say "Editor lounge" or rather something aviation related, but for instance "Pilot lounge" would have been so horribly misleading. ;-)
A "Wiki" header will help organise the contents but might hide contents by default, but hopefully people are curious enough to spend a few seconds looking around.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 19:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Went ahead and added a link in the sidebar titled "Discuss!".
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 13:58, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with Fatal error: Class 'Services_JSON' /CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php on line 224 Error

Gijs

I saw you had mentioned the issue with the JSON class. I was wondering if you ever found a resolution for this problem. I support a wiki group and have been suffering for the last month trying to resolve this issue. I would be grateful for any help.

I am running mediawiki 1.22 with php 5.3.10

On another note, I have been flying RC planes and gliders for years. I have wanted to get a simulator program. Would this be a good one to start with ?


Many Thanks

Peter

Hi Peter,
like I said at FlightGear wiki:Village pump#Found bugs
"The CategoryTree extension relies on a function that was removed as of 1.22.0, so the extensions needs some fixing. I've disabled it for now."
So my solution was to disable it. The extension itself needs fixing to work with more recent version of MediaWiki, that's not something I intended to do ;-)
And yes, FlightGear would be a good simulator to start (and even stick) with. I'm biased though...
Gijs (talk) 09:56, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Two bot jobs – Moving categories to plural form

Hello Gijs, I got stumbled upon a request for a bot job that I added to User talk:BotFlightGear a while ago. Just a gentle reminder. ;-)

The requested moves are intended to be a part of trying to make the category names more logical and harder to mistype etc.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 14:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. He's running!
Gijs (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. :-)
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 15:48, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

06/2014 newsletter: too much of a mess

Use new templates; cleanup (except for Canvas stuff, which is too much of a mess right now))
Please feel free to clean up or just remove the "mess". I realize that it's messy (Thorsten also said so recently), I added those things when we didn't have a whole lot of content, and I didn't bother writing anything from scratch, I just took stuff from the forum using the Instant-Cquotes script, which is why it's a bit "messy". But if you should decide to clean it up, I'll volunteer to help cleaning up navdisplay.mfd::update() on your behalf ;-) --Hooray (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
There's not just instant cquotes, but also sections with no text at all. Garmin and Aircraft Center for example. I don't know how someone who hasn't been following the progress is supposed to make sense out of that; which is why I think you're the best person to work on it.
When I close the newsletter and "publish" it, I usually make sure the layout is somewhat readable. Right now that job would require more time than I have and/or would like to spend.
Cheers,
Gijs (talk) 19:27, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
I've added instant-cquotes content from the corresponding wiki articles. Sorry for the mess, and thanks for the new newsletter layout - even though it's a bit awkward to edit now, can we still edit individual sections directly please ?--Hooray (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey, good job - that looks indeed much better. I was wondering if we should slightly extend the template, and then simply port Instant-cquotes to optionally create tailored sections for the newsletter, i.e. without the cquote, and using galleries, what do you think ?--Hooray (talk) 20:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
With the new section titles (that come with an author field), we don't need those quotes to make clear who's saying stuff. I've changed them to running texts now, which is a lot nicer to read IMO. Doing that on the first run is a lot easier than doing it later on, as I had to dig up the posts, get acquainted with the subject etc. The script you're using adds quite some nasty HTML to the wiki (treating normal urls as wiki links, adding dozens of <br/>, ignoring bullet lists), so I would suggest to not use it on large scale for now. If you can change it to produce running texts with correct wiki markup it would be a whole lot better ;-)
I'll have a look if we can re-enable sectional edits. Removing that was definitely unintended. My intention was to make the newsletter a little more appealing and less of an ordinary wiki article.
Gijs (talk) 20:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
right, what I am more concerned about is proper crediting-I already added Tom's nick twice there, because I wasn't involved in the development of the Aircraft Center, I merely posted some updates on the forum-which is why the cquotes script used my nick, and it was obvious that it was just a quote-now it looked like I was announcing my own work. But obviously the credit should go to TheTom & Zakalawe. The changes you suggest should be straightforward still. --Hooray (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
The new "By" tag is not meant to be used to credit the person that the section is about. It is meant to show who's written that section. So if you write something about Tom's work, your name ends up under the tile "By Hooray". Tom's name will end up in the text, where you can something along the lines of "Thanks to Tom's recent work...". Some people are not happy with articles that appear to have been written by them when they are not.
Gijs (talk) 20:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
ok, thanks for clarifying - maybe we should simply make it Written by (and Developed by) then to be on the safe side, i.e. change the template accordingly ? --Hooray (talk) 21:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
And just to be clear about it, I totally appreciate your work here, and I am looking forward to seeing if we can find a way to generalize the concept and reuse it for the changelog, even if that should just mean to partially include contents from 6 newsletters in it (as per FlightGear_wiki:Village_pump#Template_for_announcement_of_changes_and_new_features).--Hooray (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Livery texture aspect ratio

Did you accidentally remove the paragraph about that all liveries for an aircraft have to have the same aspect ratio in this edit?

Apart from that thanks for catching and fixing my very old error, n2 → 2n ;-)

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 15:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

No, it was deliberate. UVmaps use coordinates like 0.3*width, 0*heigth instead of absolute values (eg. 3rd pixel up, 15th pixel to the right). That's also why you can replace textures with different resolutions without having to edit the mapping.
You'll probably get an overly stretched texture (since pixels will beno longer "squares", as in the most likely ideal original mapping), but it is not impossible or principally wrong ;-)
Gijs (talk) 16:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 18:58, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Strange infobox image bug

I recently found a very strange bug I can not wrap my head around. It appears that an image from English Wikipedia is used instead of an image with the identical name on this wiki.

When I looked at the rather new page Yakovlev Yak-130 (perm) as well as the page I moved it from, I noticed that the aircraft picture is a photo and was about to edit the file page. Instead of seeing a photo on the file page I see a FlightGear screenshot File:Yak-130.jpg. The {{infobox aircraft}} seems to be as it should be. Going to English Wikipedia and looking for the image I find the very same image as I see rendered on the page, File:Yak-130.jpg This is a link to a Wikipedia article.

I have no idea what is going on.

Johan G (Talk | contribs) 11:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi,
that seems to be an unwanted side-effect of mw:InstantCommons. In principle this shouldn't conflict, but I suspect someone did load the Commons image before uploading the one to our wiki. Thus, the Commons one ended up in the thumbnail cache.
I've now disabled this feature, as I don't think we use it anywhere on the wiki. Not even sure why it was enabled in the first place...
Cheers,
Gijs (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I would not even have imagined.
Johan G (Talk | contribs) 16:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PA32 deleted

Hi

Noticed this is deleted - not enough info or inappropriate? Pls let me know. I have set myself a personal goal to review over 35 civil aviation aircraft and upload screenshots.

http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php?title=Piper_PA-32&action=edit&redlink=1

Openflight (talk) 01:26, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Not enough info (nothing FlightGear specific). The only content was "The Piper PA 32 is a single engined aircraft built by Piper." That's not what our wiki is for ;-) Feel free to restart the article if you've got more to write now.
Gijs (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2015 (EDT)

Sure will do, thanks. Openflight (talk) 02:44, 18 September 2015 (EDT)


Adding Table of Aircraft to Wiki page

Hi, if it's ok , will edit Wiki home page and add link to table of aircraft as follows:

Using New to FlightGear Frequently asked questions • Troubleshooting • List of aircraft • Installing scenery • Installing aircraft Helicopter flying

My concern is those new to Flight Gear do not get to see the list of aircraft and the aircraft detaisl right away from Wiki home page or FG home page

Wrong link

Hi Gijs! You still have a link for our Gitorius account you know.

Red Leader's pygments Nasal lexer

Hi Gijs, referring to Red Leader's work at [1], is there any way we/I can help to get this applied ? If you are too busy to handle/review this currently, can we get in touch with someone else who's got the corresponding access/privileges on the wiki (Curt, Simon?). Thanks --Hooray (talk) 09:19, 22 April 2016 (EDT)

BUMP ?