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My '''personal''' preference is the use planes build around the '''''JSBSIM''''' simulator engine just because the planes '''"moves"''' at my eyes in a more realistic way.<br />
My '''personal''' preference is the use planes build around the '''''JSBSIM''''' simulator engine just because the planes '''"moves"''' at my eyes in a more realistic way.<br />
And this why, in the following list almost or all the planes are jsbims "powered".<br />
And this why, in the following list '''almost''' or all the planes are jsbims "powered".<br />
 
Now, if you prefer a planes built around "Yasim", you are fully welcome to use them and, please, do!<br /><br />
 
The values in the table hereafter could differ from the one "in the book".<br />
The values bellow are the result of a test ran on the 1st step of the "Parcours", from : LILO take off  - to  - Climb "Corna" - "Liscidini".<br  />
All the planes have been setup the same way : 1 pilot max 180 lbs - no pax - no luggage - fuel the strictly needed to reach the next "pit/fuel stop". Weather : "fair weather".<br />
 
For the JSBSim models, different result from one test to another are to be expected, since the way the plane is flown is going to have some impact.<br />


Now, if you prefer a planes built around "Yasim", you are fully welcome to use them and, please, do!<br >


{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! picture !! my rank' !! ACFT Type !! Name !! Creator !! Nom Speed !! Max Speed !! Stall Speed !! Spd at top<br />1st climb<br />ft left agl !! bank<br />speed<br />1 ... 5 !! Status !! Link !! Notes  
! picture !! my rank' !! ACFT Type !! Name !! Creator !! Nom Speed !! Max Speed !! Stall Speed !! Spd at top<br />1st climb <ref name="1C.">[1st Climb is from 1200 ft to 3400 @ 15 to 20 degrees:]</ref><br />(ft left agl) !! bank<br />speed<br />1 ... 5 !! Status !! Link !! Notes  
|-
|| [[File:DR40-Yeti-Prod-thumbnail.jpg|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DR40 YP]]                  || 1 || DR40 || Robin 400-180                          || Yeti-Prod                  || 153 kts || 163 kts || 45 kts || 95 kts <br />(100 ft) || 4 || Not<br />ready<br />for public || N/A                                                        || too short to<br />deliver.<ref name="N.D.">[Not delivered ... :]</ref>
|-  
|-  
|| [[File:DHC2-Beaver-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-06-09.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DHC2]]    || 2 || DHC2 || De Havilland<br />Beaver              || Sid Adams                   || 189 kts || 160 kts || 67 kts || 75 kts <br />(030 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/dhc2.zip dhc2 Beaver ]         || Rudder<br />Steering<br />Issue.<ref name="Rudder">[alternative for the rudder problem ... :]</ref>
|| [[File:DHC2-Beaver-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-06-09.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DHC2]]    || 2 || DHC2 || De Havilland<br />Beaver              || Sid Adams<br />and more...  || 189 kts || 160 kts || 67 kts || 75 kts <br />(030 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/dhc2.zip dhc2 Beaver ] || Some versions have<br />an issue with<br />the Rudder Steering<br /><br />Solution 1.<br />Use differential brakes [,][.]<br /><br />Solution 2.<br />load this model : [http://www.moohw.com/d1234567-cafe-fafa-2000-publicshares/Scenarios/LILO%20LOWI%20ADRENALINE/BackupPlanes/dhc2-2018-Oct-22-with-working-rudderWheels.zip dhc2]<ref name="unknown author">[the author iof thos modification. Please make sure to have a read of the inner readme-first.txt, thank you.]</ref>
|-
|-
|| [[File:DR40-PAF-thumbnail.jpg|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DR40 PF]]                        || 3 || DR40 || Robin 400 180                          || PAF Version                || 140 kts || 151 kts || 48 kts || 59 kts <br />(005 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/DR400.zip DR 400-180 PAF  ]   || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[Where to start to climb... :]</ref>
|| [[File:DR40-PAF-thumbnail.jpg|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DR40 PF]]                        || 3 || DR40 || Robin 400 180                          || PAF Version                || 140 kts || 151 kts || 48 kts || 59 kts <br />(005 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/DR400.zip DR 400-180 PAF  ]   || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[This plane need a gentle climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.]</ref>
|-
|-
|| [[File:C182-36-PT-IAO-Screenshot 2020-05-28 06-59-17.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C182]] || 4 || C182 || Cessna 182<br />180 HP<br />36" wheels || see<br />README<br />or xml || 150 kts || 170 kts || 50 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/c172r.zip c172r SkyHawk ]     || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[Where to start to climb... :]</ref>
|| [[File:C182-36-PT-IAO-Screenshot 2020-05-28 06-59-17.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C182]] || 4 || C182 || Cessna 182<br />180 HP<br />36" wheels || see<br />README<br />or xml || 150 kts || 170 kts || 50 kts || 70 kts <br />(060 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/c172r.zip c172r SkyHawk ]     || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[This plane need a gentle climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.]</ref>
|-
|-
|| [[File:C337-thumbnail.jpg|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C337]]                                || 5 || C337 || Cessna 337<br />Skymaster              || see<br />README<br />or xml || 150 kts || 184 kts || 63 kts || 115 kts <br />(150 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cessna337.zip C337  ]         || .
|| [[File:C337-thumbnail.jpg|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C337]]                                || 5 || C337 || Cessna 337<br />Skymaster              || see<br />README<br />or xml || 150 kts || 184 kts || 63 kts || 115 kts <br />(150 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cessna337.zip C337  ]       || .
|-
|-
|| [[File:PA38-28-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-24-20.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models PA38]]        || 6 || PA28 || Piper<br />PA-28<br />Cherokee        || see README<br />or xml     || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/SenecaII.zip PA-38/40 SENECAII]|| .
|| [[File:PA38-28-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-24-20.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models PA34]]        || 6 || PA34 || Piper<br />PA-34<br />SENECA II        || see<br />README<br />or xml || 159 kts || 175 kts || 60 kts || 85 kts <br />(085 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/SenecaII.zip PA-34 SENECAII] || .
|-
|-
|| [[File:ZIVKO-EDGE-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-28-27.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models ZVED]]    || 7 || ZVED || Zivko<br />Edge 540                    || see<br />README<br />or xml || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/ZivkoEdge.zip Zivko Edge ]    || .
|| [[File:ZIVKO-EDGE-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-28-27.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models ZVED]]    || 7 || ZVED || Zivko<br />Edge 540                    || see<br />README<br />or xml || 155 kts || 200 kts || 56 kts || 140 kts <br />(150 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/ZivkoEdge.zip ZivkoEdge]    || banking<br />high response!<ref name="Quick Banking">[This plane execute very quick turns. So quick that some time it does become hard to control.]</ref>
|-  
|-  
|| [[File:STAMPE-1-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-32-51.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models STAM]]      || 8 || STAM || Stampe<br />SV 4 Br                    || see<br />README<br />or xml || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Stampe-SV4.zip STAMPE SV 4  ] || .
|| [[File:STAMPE-1-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-32-51.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models STAM]]      || 8 || STAM || Stampe<br />SV 4 Br                    || see<br />README<br />or xml || 100 kts || 135 kts || 35 kts || 70 kts <br />(250 ft) || 4 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Stampe-SV4.zip STAMPE SV 4  ] || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[This plane need a gentle climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.]</ref><br /><br />(Yasim)
|-
|-
|| [[File:B1900dsplash.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane ModelsB190]]                                  || 9 || B190 || Beechcraft<br />1900 D                || see<br />README<br />or xml || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/b1900d.zip B1900 D  ]         || .
|| [[File:B1900dsplash.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane ModelsB190]]                                  || 9 || B190 || Beechcraft<br />1900 D                || see<br />README<br />or xml || 245 kts || 250 kts || 80 kts || 150 kts <br />(150 ft) || 3 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/b1900d.zip B1900 D  ]         || .
|-
|-
|| [[File:CAP-10C-1-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-49-45.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 C]]    || 10 || CP10 || Cap 10 C                              || see<br />README<br />or xml || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cap10C.zip CAP 10 C  ]        ||  
|| [[File:CAP-10C-1-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-49-45.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 C]]    || 10 || CP10 || Cap 10 C                              || see<br />README<br />or xml || 145 kts || 160 kts || 48 kts || 60 kts <br />(050 ft) || 5 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cap10C.zip CAP 10 C  ]        || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[This plane node to climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.]</ref>
|-  
|-  
|| [[File:CAP-10B-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-49-45.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 B]]      || 11 || CP10 || Cap 10 B                              || see<br />README<br />or xml || xxx kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cap10B.zip CAP 10 B  ]        || .
|| [[File:CAP-10B-Screenshot 2020-05-28 07-49-45.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 B]]      || 11 || CP10 || Cap 10 B                              || see<br />README<br />or xml || 100 kts || 165 kts || 48 kts || 60 kts <br />(050 ft) || 5 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/Cap10B.zip CAP 10 B  ]        || low power!<br />start climb<br />sooner.<ref name="Climb Sooner">[This plane need a gentle climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.]</ref>
|-
|-
|| [[File:AN2-Screenshot 2020-05-28 08-47-30.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models AN2]]            || 12 || AN2  || Antonov 2                            || see<br />README<br />or xml || 140 kts || 000 kts || 00 kts || 00 kts <br />(000 ft) || x || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/an2.zip Antonov AN2 ]          || Detailed Cockpit<br /> ... in Russian<br />but .... press S to start
|| [[File:AN2-Screenshot 2020-05-28 08-47-30.png|thumb|LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models AN2]]            || 12 || AN2  || Antonov 2                            || see<br />README<br />or xml || 140 kts || 160 kts || 60 kts || 65 kts <br />(055 ft) || 2 || Ready  || [http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/flightgear/ftp/Aircraft/an2.zip Antonov AN2 ]          || Detailed Cockpit<br /> ... in Russian<br />but .... press S to start<br /><br />limited<br />stall.<ref name="limited Stall">[Limited stall. The plane was coming down like in parachute fall. Waited a bit, re applied thrust and the plane resumed nicely.]</ref>
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 13:51, 19 October 2022

Planes Planes Planes...

JSBSIM or YASIM ?
I will not here open the debate.

My personal preference is the use planes build around the JSBSIM simulator engine just because the planes "moves" at my eyes in a more realistic way.
And this why, in the following list almost or all the planes are jsbims "powered".

Now, if you prefer a planes built around "Yasim", you are fully welcome to use them and, please, do!

The values in the table hereafter could differ from the one "in the book".
The values bellow are the result of a test ran on the 1st step of the "Parcours", from : LILO take off - to - Climb "Corna" - "Liscidini".

All the planes have been setup the same way : 1 pilot max 180 lbs - no pax - no luggage - fuel the strictly needed to reach the next "pit/fuel stop". Weather : "fair weather".

For the JSBSim models, different result from one test to another are to be expected, since the way the plane is flown is going to have some impact.


picture my rank' ACFT Type Name Creator Nom Speed Max Speed Stall Speed Spd at top
1st climb [1]
(ft left agl)
bank
speed
1 ... 5
Status Link Notes
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DHC2
2 DHC2 De Havilland
Beaver
Sid Adams
and more...
189 kts 160 kts 67 kts 75 kts
(030 ft)
3 Ready dhc2 Beaver Some versions have
an issue with
the Rudder Steering

Solution 1.
Use differential brakes [,][.]

Solution 2.
load this model : dhc2[2]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models DR40 PF
3 DR40 Robin 400 180 PAF Version 140 kts 151 kts 48 kts 59 kts
(005 ft)
4 Ready DR 400-180 PAF low power!
start climb
sooner.[3]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C182
4 C182 Cessna 182
180 HP
36" wheels
see
README
or xml
150 kts 170 kts 50 kts 70 kts
(060 ft)
3 Ready c172r SkyHawk low power!
start climb
sooner.[3]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models C337
5 C337 Cessna 337
Skymaster
see
README
or xml
150 kts 184 kts 63 kts 115 kts
(150 ft)
4 Ready C337 .
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models PA34
6 PA34 Piper
PA-34
SENECA II
see
README
or xml
159 kts 175 kts 60 kts 85 kts
(085 ft)
3 Ready PA-34 SENECAII .
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models ZVED
7 ZVED Zivko
Edge 540
see
README
or xml
155 kts 200 kts 56 kts 140 kts
(150 ft)
4 Ready ZivkoEdge banking
high response![4]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models STAM
8 STAM Stampe
SV 4 Br
see
README
or xml
100 kts 135 kts 35 kts 70 kts
(250 ft)
4 Ready STAMPE SV 4 low power!
start climb
sooner.[3]

(Yasim)
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane ModelsB190
9 B190 Beechcraft
1900 D
see
README
or xml
245 kts 250 kts 80 kts 150 kts
(150 ft)
3 Ready B1900 D .
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 C
10 CP10 Cap 10 C see
README
or xml
145 kts 160 kts 48 kts 60 kts
(050 ft)
5 Ready CAP 10 C low power!
start climb
sooner.[3]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models CAP2 B
11 CP10 Cap 10 B see
README
or xml
100 kts 165 kts 48 kts 60 kts
(050 ft)
5 Ready CAP 10 B low power!
start climb
sooner.[3]
LILO-LOWI-Adrenaline suggested Plane Models AN2
12 AN2 Antonov 2 see
README
or xml
140 kts 160 kts 60 kts 65 kts
(055 ft)
2 Ready Antonov AN2 Detailed Cockpit
... in Russian
but .... press S to start

limited
stall.[5]
  1. [1st Climb is from 1200 ft to 3400 @ 15 to 20 degrees:]
  2. [the author iof thos modification. Please make sure to have a read of the inner readme-first.txt, thank you.]
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 [This plane need a gentle climb at less then 7 degrees - start you climb sooner.] Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "Climb Sooner" defined multiple times with different content Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "Climb Sooner" defined multiple times with different content
  4. [This plane execute very quick turns. So quick that some time it does become hard to control.]
  5. [Limited stall. The plane was coming down like in parachute fall. Waited a bit, re applied thrust and the plane resumed nicely.]