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== Subscribing to the devel list ==
== Subscribing to a mailing list ==
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To sign up for one of the above mailing lists following these steps:
  |Just [https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel sign up here] with these steps:
 
# Add you email address and pick a password, then click on [subscribe]. If you want to instantly see responses, don't choose 'daily digest'.  This option can be changed at any time.
# Click a subscribe link in the list above to get to the form where you sign up for that list.
# Wait for a confirmation email (usually < 10 seconds, and a few minutes max).  It will often be found in the spam folder.  Then click on the link in that message.
# Add your email address and pick a password, then click the {{key press|subscribe}} button.
#* If you want to instantly see responses, do not choose 'daily digest'.  This option can be changed at any time.
# Wait for a confirmation email (usually within 10 seconds, and a few minutes max).  It can often be found in your spam folder.  Then click on the link in that message.
# Select your settings.
# Select your settings.
# At the bottom there are two buttons - one to cancel the process, the other to subscript.  Click on the correct one. This step is often forgotten!
# At the bottom there are two buttons, one to cancel the process the other to subscript.  Click on the correct button.
  |{{cite web |url=http://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?p=243054#p243054
#* This step is often forgotten!
    |title=<nowiki>Re: Looking for aircraft with 'paper cut' bugs</nowiki>
 
    |author=<nowiki>bugman</nowiki>
When you are subscribing to most of the mailings list you can post messages freely. You might be kicked off if you bring conflicts or noise, though.
    |date=<nowiki>Fri May 15</nowiki>
 
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Discuss your problem laying it out in as much detail you can and show that you are interested in the problem. If you are willing to work on it will also help, even if it is not related to coding itself.  If your discussion is more than just asking for features to be added you have a better chance of getting help and you may find people there who can give you pointers on how to approach your problem.
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Keep in mind that many of the lists are slower than the forum and that responses may take several daysShould it take more than a week you might want to probe the interest by responding to your own message.  Sometimes you will simply find there is none.
  |Then you are on the mailing list and can post messages freely (anyone bringing in conflict will be kicked off pretty fast, but otherwise there's no problem).  Then just discuss the problem - here for YASim - lay it out in as much detail as you can and show why you are interested in this.  It will really help if you are willing to work on this too, even if it not to do with the code.  Show that you want to help get this done and are not just asking for features.  That may be enough to get this implementedYou'll find the right people there to point you to the heart of the problem.  Oh, the list is extremely slow compared to the forums, so responses can sometimes take up to a week (much longer than that and you should probe with a response to your own message).  For the FG mailing lists, it really only takes less than a minute to subscribe, and seconds to unsubscribe later on, if you so wish:<br/>
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[https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/mailman/?source{{=}}navbar The FlightGear mailings lists].</ul>
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Edit: Oh, to post a message to the list, you simply send an email to flightgear-devel att lists.sourceforge.net after you have subscribed.
  |{{cite web |url=http://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?p=243054#p243054
    |title=<nowiki>Re: Looking for aircraft with 'paper cut' bugs</nowiki>
    |author=<nowiki>bugman</nowiki>
    |date=<nowiki>Fri May 15</nowiki>
  }}
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== Posting to the mailing lists without subscribing ==
== Posting to the mailing lists without subscribing ==

Revision as of 10:17, 19 May 2015

Mailing lists are used for some of the FlightGear community's communications, in particular among the core developers who are working on the flight simulator itself.

Some questions are better asked on the mailing list instead of the forum. You do not strictly have to be a core developer to subscribe and/or post to the mailing lists.

The mailing lists

Some of the lists are for discussions while some only contain announcements.

List Archive Subscribe Email address Contents Remarks
Flightgear-announce archive subscribe flightgear-announce@lists.sourceforge.net FlightGear announcements
Flightgear-bugs archive subscribe flightgear-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net FlightGear Bug Tracker
Flightgear-builds archive subscribe flightgear-builds@lists.sourceforge.net Chatter from the FlightGear build servers
Flightgear-commitlogs archive subscribe flightgear-commitlogs@lists.sourceforge.net Source code change commit logs
Flightgear-cvslogs archive subscribe flightgear-cvslogs@lists.sourceforge.net CVS commit log distribution
Flightgear-devel archive subscribe flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net FlightGear developer discussions Most active list
Flightgear-fgaddon-commitlogs archive subscribe flightgear-fgaddon-commitlogs@lists.sourceforge.net Commit log message for the fgaddon repository (content developers)
Flightgear-flightmodel archive subscribe flightgear-flightmodel@lists.sourceforge.net Flight model discussions
Flightgear-newsletter archive subscribe flightgear-newsletter@lists.sourceforge.net FlightGear newsletter announcements and discussions
Flightgear-scenery archive subscribe flightgear-scenery@lists.sourceforge.net Discussion of Scenery development: code, tools, GIS data, models, etc.
Flightgear-users archive subscribe flightgear-users@lists.sourceforge.net FlightGear user discussions Mostly replaced by the forum

Subscribing to a mailing list

To sign up for one of the above mailing lists following these steps:

  1. Click a subscribe link in the list above to get to the form where you sign up for that list.
  2. Add your email address and pick a password, then click the subscribe button.
    • If you want to instantly see responses, do not choose 'daily digest'. This option can be changed at any time.
  3. Wait for a confirmation email (usually within 10 seconds, and a few minutes max). It can often be found in your spam folder. Then click on the link in that message.
  4. Select your settings.
  5. At the bottom there are two buttons, one to cancel the process the other to subscript. Click on the correct button.
    • This step is often forgotten!

When you are subscribing to most of the mailings list you can post messages freely. You might be kicked off if you bring conflicts or noise, though.

Discuss your problem laying it out in as much detail you can and show that you are interested in the problem. If you are willing to work on it will also help, even if it is not related to coding itself. If your discussion is more than just asking for features to be added you have a better chance of getting help and you may find people there who can give you pointers on how to approach your problem.

Keep in mind that many of the lists are slower than the forum and that responses may take several days. Should it take more than a week you might want to probe the interest by responding to your own message. Sometimes you will simply find there is none.

Posting to the mailing lists without subscribing

Subscribing is not strictly necessary to send emails.

Your post may be significantly delayed if you are not subscribed though. E-mails from addresses which are not subscribed to the list are held for moderator approval before they are posted.

Report bugs to the issue tracker

Bugs should preferably be reported to the issue tracker instead of posting to a mailing list.

You may have to register a SourceForge account first.

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