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== Moving and/or rewriting == | == Moving and/or rewriting == | ||
When first seeing this page I (and probably many other) first thought that it would help someone who had not been to a wiki going through the first steps of creating a new page. However it is more of a "welcome to this wiki and please write about this" kind of page ending in three lonesome sentences on how to create a new page. | When first seeing this page I (and probably many other) first thought that it would help someone who had not been to a wiki going through the first steps of creating a new page. However it is more of a "welcome to this wiki and please write about this" kind of page ending in three lonesome sentences on how to create a new page. | ||
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:—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:31, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | :—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:31, 23 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Deleting vs. rewriting == | |||
I would suggest rewriting this page into a general tutorial or introduction to the wiki instead of deleting it. While I have not yet done this myself though I have thought of it, I believe it could help the newer editors, specifically those with little or no prior experience from a wiki using the MediaWiki wiki software. | |||
Some things this tutorial could be about is for example | |||
* What are those links to the right? | |||
* Why should I write a summary? | |||
* What is a diff? | |||
* What is a category? | |||
* What are permalinks? | |||
In essence more general stuff not covered by [[Help:Your first article]]. | |||
—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 21:57, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Oh. I misunderstood your plans then. I was oriented to split maintenance and "use" (i.e. simply adding contents), so hints for choosing the category and writing the summary could go directly in [[Help:Your first article]]. I guess most people wouldn't be interested in the rest. Also, [[Help:Maintenance]] (which I happen to have just created before reading this) is supposed to talk more about this wiki than wiki in general. | |||
:--[[User:Bigstones|Bigstones]] ([[User talk:Bigstones|talk]]) 22:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: I will try do some early work on this rewrite today. | |||
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 10:16, 17 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::: I am starting to realize that a tutorial probably is not the way to go. There are too many features to cover, so I would end up the way I often end up — with a marathon read. | |||
::: In addition, a tutorial may also not be the way as many users is not interested in all the things a full tutorial would have to cover to please other users. | |||
::: I will probably split up the page into smaller pages discussing only few things at a time, and probably even move this page to one of those. | |||
::: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 01:49, 21 February 2016 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 07:58, 21 February 2016
Moving and/or rewriting
When first seeing this page I (and probably many other) first thought that it would help someone who had not been to a wiki going through the first steps of creating a new page. However it is more of a "welcome to this wiki and please write about this" kind of page ending in three lonesome sentences on how to create a new page.
I have been pondering whether I should move this to Help:Introduction, Help:Welcome or something like that and rewrite this page or if I should just rewrite it. I will probably do the former (move and rewrite this page). Any suggestions are most welcome.
—Johan G (Talk | contribs) 22:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I am now considering moving most of this article to Help:Tutorial after first deleting the current two-edit stub Help:Editing and moving the current Help:Tutorial there. Help:Tutorial would then be rewritten into a tutorial on what this wiki is all about and what a wiki is and how to efficiently use it and contribute to it For more see Help talk:Tutorial#Rewrite and move to Help:Editing.
Deleting vs. rewriting
I would suggest rewriting this page into a general tutorial or introduction to the wiki instead of deleting it. While I have not yet done this myself though I have thought of it, I believe it could help the newer editors, specifically those with little or no prior experience from a wiki using the MediaWiki wiki software.
Some things this tutorial could be about is for example
- What are those links to the right?
- Why should I write a summary?
- What is a diff?
- What is a category?
- What are permalinks?
In essence more general stuff not covered by Help:Your first article.
—Johan G (Talk | contribs) 21:57, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh. I misunderstood your plans then. I was oriented to split maintenance and "use" (i.e. simply adding contents), so hints for choosing the category and writing the summary could go directly in Help:Your first article. I guess most people wouldn't be interested in the rest. Also, Help:Maintenance (which I happen to have just created before reading this) is supposed to talk more about this wiki than wiki in general.
- --Bigstones (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- I am starting to realize that a tutorial probably is not the way to go. There are too many features to cover, so I would end up the way I often end up — with a marathon read.
- In addition, a tutorial may also not be the way as many users is not interested in all the things a full tutorial would have to cover to please other users.
- I will probably split up the page into smaller pages discussing only few things at a time, and probably even move this page to one of those.
- —Johan G (Talk | contribs) 01:49, 21 February 2016 (EST)