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Old discussions should be moved to a [[FlightGear wiki:Village pump/Archive YEAR]]. These discussions can then be moved to a relevant talk page if appropriate.
Old discussions should be moved to a [[FlightGear wiki:Village pump/Archive YEAR]]. These discussions can then be moved to a relevant talk page if appropriate.


== Welcoming template ==
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I have had a shelved draft of a welcoming template laying in a subpage for quite a while that I have dusted off and rewritten.


It has a welcoming message and some links I hope will be useful to new users (and perhaps not so new ones as well). The idea is that when some of us sees that there is a new user we will add that template to the top of the new users discussion page.  I am not sure about whether we should wait till the user have made some edits (to see if it is a bot) or if we should add it at once.
== MediaWiki updated to 1.39.6 ==


I would like to have some more eyes on it to see for example if I should have some more or some less links, or if there is something I did not think of. I tried to use as few links as possible, while also keeping ones a new user might hope is there, but do not know where to look for.
We have updated MediaWiki to its latest LTS version 1.39.6 today. Although we've tested the update, chances are that we've missed certain scenarios or features. Please report any issues that you may encounter.


When I feel content with it I will move it to the template namespace and add a site notice linking to it for a while, as I am not sure if you all look here or on [[Special:RecentChanges]].
[[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 09:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)


<s>Anyway here is my current draft (do not hesitate to add suggestions on its discussion page): User:Johan G/Template:Welcome to the wiki</s>
== Embedded YouTube videos broken ==


[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 13:02, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
It seems that the [[mw:Extension:EmbedVideo|EmbedVideo extension]] was removed at some point. Consequently, pages such as [[Howto:Creating FlightGear Promo Videos]] are broken. At present, the best replacements seems to be [[mw:Extension:EmbedVideo_(fork)|a fork]] and [[mw:Extension:YouTube|Extension:YouTube]].


:: The template is now moved to {{tl|Welcome to the wiki}}
'''''[[User:Red Leader|<span style="color:red">Red Leader</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:Red Leader|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Red Leader|contribs]]) 19:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:19, 17 April 2019 (EDT)


: Hi Johan,
: Hi,
: The template looks good to me!
: Thanks for the report. It was introduced by today's update, but should be fixed now.
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 06:48, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 21:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)


: It looks good to me too. What about using [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Create_User_Page Extension:Create User Page] to fully automate the process?
:: Confirmed, thanks. And I’d completely forgotten about {{[[Template:Wikipedia|wikipedia]]}}. 😅
: [[User:Bugman|Bugman]] ([[User talk:Bugman|talk]]) 09:57, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
:: '''''[[User:Red Leader|<span style="color:red">Red Leader</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:Red Leader|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Red Leader|contribs]]) 21:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)


:: If you mean as in automatically creating a user discussion page and adding the welcome template?  Though it would probably be a good idea, as likely no one will be left without a welcome, it kind of feels better if it is done by a being of flesh and blood than if it was done by a bot.  Consider me undecided. ;-)
== Forum registration problem ==
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 18:13, 17 April 2019 (EDT)


::: It is a worry that the automation will not seem personal. However I just counted the [[Special:Log/newusers|new user registrations]] from 17/04/2018 to 17/04/2019.  There are 113 registrations!  Maybe 5% are not bots, but identifying these is hard.  I think it will be too overwhelming for any individual to manually do this.
Hello,
I would like to register on the forum, but I tried several times without success. I sent an email to the administrator some time ago, but it seems to have been lost. I don't know what to do, is there somebody here who could help? Please tell me if you need additional information.
Thanks very much in advance. [[User:Kestrel|Kestrel]] ([[User talk:Kestrel|talk]]) 13:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


::: [[User:Bugman|Bugman]] ([[User talk:Bugman|talk]]) 01:43, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
: Hi,
 
: That's unfortunate! You can find my email address at https://forum.flightgear.org/contact.php Please try again if you've done that before, I'll actively monitor the address for any incoming messages, and let me know if you don't get a reply.
:::: One registration every second day.  Automation might not be such a bad idea after all.
: [[User:Gijs|Gijs]] ([[User talk:Gijs|talk]]) 15:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC) (forum admin)
:::: I noticed though that [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Create_User_Page Extension:Create User Page] does not create the user ''discussion'' page, which is where such messageboxes typically are placed. Maybe not a big problem.
:::: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 12:46, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
 
:::: A site notice is now up with the text "Hi fellow wiki users!
 
:::: To help new users get more familiar with the wiki (and maybe older users too) there is now a {{tl|Welcome to the wiki}} template. Have a look at it and feel free to add it to new users discussion pages (and perhaps your own).
 
:::: I have tried to keep the template short, but meaningful. /{{usr|Johan G}}"
 
:::: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 06:13, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== The lead section, or first section, as I have called it ==
Most of the time when I have been writing help pages I have tried to use the terminology used on Wikipedia and its sister projects, but somehow I have called the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section&oldid=895095452 lead section] (or ''lead'' or ''introduction'') ''first section'' and done that consistently.  I have gone through the help pages and changed that.
 
—[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 08:56, 23 May 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== Automated translation for the wikipedia template ==
 
Just for the record, I attempted to modify {{tl|wikipedia}} to automatically determine the page language and point to the non-english Wikipedia page without the {{param|lang}} parameter.  I have recently added the {{param|wikipedia}} parameter to {{tl|infobox aircraft}} and was hoping to use the language auto-detection to have the wikipedia infobox link point to the correct translation at Wikipedia.  I could not use <code>{{obr}}PAGELANGUAGE{{cbr}}</code> as this required MediaWiki >= 1.29 (see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Technical_metadata]).  So I unsuccessfully attempted to use the same logic as the {{tl|LangSwitch}} parameter.  I reverted all changes as there appears to be no way to correctly detect the page language (other than wait for the next MediaWiki upgrade to expose <code>{{obr}}PAGELANGUAGE{{cbr}}</code>).
 
[[User:Bugman|Bugman]] ([[User talk:Bugman|talk]]) 05:51, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
 
: Note that this means that the aircraft infobox wikipedia link can only point to the English page until an upgrade occurs (this is not urgent though).
 
: [[User:Bugman|Bugman]] ([[User talk:Bugman|talk]]) 06:01, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
 
:: <code><nowiki>{{lc: {{#titleparts: {{PAGENAME}} | 1}} }}</nowiki></code> should return the language code needed for the '''lang=''' parameter.
 
:: Note that you will only be able to pull this of where the article title is ''exactly the same'' in another language.  If a model for example have have another name in one country (like cars sometimes have) the link will fail.  If the title transcribed the link will fail.  Etc.
 
:: —[[User:Johan G|Johan G]] ([[User_talk:Johan_G|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Johan_G|contribs]]) 07:16, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

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Welcome to the Village Pump. This page is used to discuss the technical issues, operations and guidelines of the FlightGear wiki.

Please add new topics to the bottom of this page.

Old discussions should be moved to a FlightGear wiki:Village pump/Archive YEAR. These discussions can then be moved to a relevant talk page if appropriate.

MediaWiki updated to 1.39.6

We have updated MediaWiki to its latest LTS version 1.39.6 today. Although we've tested the update, chances are that we've missed certain scenarios or features. Please report any issues that you may encounter.

Gijs (talk) 09:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Embedded YouTube videos broken

It seems that the EmbedVideo extension was removed at some point. Consequently, pages such as Howto:Creating FlightGear Promo Videos are broken. At present, the best replacements seems to be a fork and Extension:YouTube.

Red Leader (talk, contribs) 19:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi,
Thanks for the report. It was introduced by today's update, but should be fixed now.
Gijs (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Confirmed, thanks. And I’d completely forgotten about {{wikipedia}}. 😅
Red Leader (talk, contribs) 21:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Forum registration problem

Hello, I would like to register on the forum, but I tried several times without success. I sent an email to the administrator some time ago, but it seems to have been lost. I don't know what to do, is there somebody here who could help? Please tell me if you need additional information. Thanks very much in advance. Kestrel (talk) 13:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi,
That's unfortunate! You can find my email address at https://forum.flightgear.org/contact.php Please try again if you've done that before, I'll actively monitor the address for any incoming messages, and let me know if you don't get a reply.
Gijs (talk) 15:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC) (forum admin)