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3d Cockpit:
3d Cockpit:


* cockpit instruments do light at night, but the cockpit itself stays dark
* cockpit instruments do light at night, but the cockpit itself stays dark, which means (among other things) the flap handle can't be seen
* cockpit instruments can be seen through the rudder controls, they overlay the rudder controls
* cockpit instruments can be seen through the rudder controls, they overlay the rudder controls
* can't hear sound when pressing the switches and levers in the cockpit
* can't hear sound when pressing the switches and levers in the cockpit
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* pilot seat is not available
* pilot seat is not available
* no pilot or copilot present
* no pilot or copilot present
* cockpit window has no windscreen wipers
 


General:
General:
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* aircraft is flipped when pressing the reset button
* aircraft is flipped when pressing the reset button
* aircraft has the wrong elevation (approximately 20 meter above the runway) after pressing the reset key
* aircraft has the wrong elevation (approximately 20 meter above the runway) after pressing the reset key
* horizon instrument is in wrong position after doing some wild flying maneuvers.
 
* The C182 model does not realistically capture the flap/power/trim  interaction.  In the model, extending the flaps seems to cause a nose-down pitching moment, which is the wrong direction.  And the power-dependence of the effect is not realistically modelled.  In a real C182 / C172 / C152 / C150, the flap/trim interaction can be described as follows:
** Changing the flap setting has little effect when the engine is      at idle.
** Changing the power setting has little effect when the flaps are    in the retracted position.
**  However, there is a multiplicative effect: Adding power causes    a nose-up pitching moment when flaps are in an extended position.    Or, to say the same thing, extending the flaps causes a nose-up    pitching moment.  The effect is in proportion to the amount of    power being developed *times* the amount of flap deflection.
 
* The model seems never to consume any fuel.  I dumped  the property list and discovered that engines/engine/fuel-flow-gph  takes on reasonable values and tracks the throttle setting, while  engines/engine/fuel-flow_pph remained stuck at zero.  This is a  particularly bad disconnect, since apparently the latter is what  gets integrated to calculate engines/engine/fuel-consumed-lbs.
 
 
 
Desirable creeping features:
 
* Retractible landing gear.  This would increase the value of the model for "transition training" for pilots transitioning into complex aircraft.
 
 
== Non-Bugs ==
 
* horizon instrument is in wrong position after doing some wild flying maneuvers.  This is a realistic model of a tumbled gyro.
* cockpit window has no windscreen wipers.  This is realistic.


== External links ==
== External links ==

Revision as of 02:55, 10 January 2007

Development status/Issues/Todo

c182-2dpanel Cessna 182 (2D panel)

Outside:

  • cockpit instruments can be seen through the aileron
  • ailerons on the right side are not animated
  • no cockpit light at night visible
  • no pilot and co pilot visible
  • wings are not textured
  • aircraft has no shadow
  • no aircraft light available

3d Cockpit:

  • cockpit instruments do light at night, but the cockpit itself stays dark, which means (among other things) the flap handle can't be seen
  • cockpit instruments can be seen through the rudder controls, they overlay the rudder controls
  • can't hear sound when pressing the switches and levers in the cockpit
  • no elevator trim control available
  • no rudder control pedals available
  • cockpit instruments look flat, they don't have a 3d look
  • cockit is not textured
  • pilot seat is not available
  • no pilot or copilot present


General:

  • engine sound in cockpit does not differ from outside engine sound
  • hud is not available
  • aircraft is flipped when pressing the reset button
  • aircraft has the wrong elevation (approximately 20 meter above the runway) after pressing the reset key
  • The C182 model does not realistically capture the flap/power/trim interaction. In the model, extending the flaps seems to cause a nose-down pitching moment, which is the wrong direction. And the power-dependence of the effect is not realistically modelled. In a real C182 / C172 / C152 / C150, the flap/trim interaction can be described as follows:
    • Changing the flap setting has little effect when the engine is at idle.
    • Changing the power setting has little effect when the flaps are in the retracted position.
    • However, there is a multiplicative effect: Adding power causes a nose-up pitching moment when flaps are in an extended position. Or, to say the same thing, extending the flaps causes a nose-up pitching moment. The effect is in proportion to the amount of power being developed *times* the amount of flap deflection.
  • The model seems never to consume any fuel. I dumped the property list and discovered that engines/engine/fuel-flow-gph takes on reasonable values and tracks the throttle setting, while engines/engine/fuel-flow_pph remained stuck at zero. This is a particularly bad disconnect, since apparently the latter is what gets integrated to calculate engines/engine/fuel-consumed-lbs.


Desirable creeping features:

  • Retractible landing gear. This would increase the value of the model for "transition training" for pilots transitioning into complex aircraft.


Non-Bugs

  • horizon instrument is in wrong position after doing some wild flying maneuvers. This is a realistic model of a tumbled gyro.
  • cockpit window has no windscreen wipers. This is realistic.

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