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Using "Talk:Next newsletter" might be too simple
(newsletter template ?)
 
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Hi, so far, the template has been kept here [[Talk:Next_newsletter]] - I guess, we should pick a more obvious location ? --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 13:46, 24 June 2020 (EDT)
Hi, so far, the template has been kept here [[Talk:Next_newsletter]] - I guess, we should pick a more obvious location ? --[[User:Hooray|Hooray]] ([[User talk:Hooray|talk]]) 13:46, 24 June 2020 (EDT)
:Hi [[:User:Hooray|Hooray]],
:first, I welcome to see the newsletter becoming more popular these days. And in fact I already contributed to Talk:Next newsletter. But in '''mid 2017''' we discussed a '''replacement for [[Talk: Next newsletter]].''' You can find that discussion at [[FlightGear wiki:Village pump/Archive 2018|Village Pump 2018]]. Johan G designed a new/better newsletter [[User:Johan G/Template:This months newsletter/Newsletter example|here]]. Later I continued that project [[User:Skybike/Template:This months newsletter/Newsletter example|here]]. The official newsletter switched to the '''new design in September 2018''' started by legoboyvdlp.
:There are many differences in '''design''', just note the manual ''"Table of Content"'' below that title box at [[Talk:Next newsletter]]. We decided to switch back to the regular TOC to lower the entry level for new authors. ([[FlightGear wiki:Village pump/Archive 2018|discussion]])
:The template has a huge scale of automatisation. Mediawiki has the ability to '''"preload"''' a page while creating a new one:
:*Click at the top right of the {{User:Skybike/Template:This months newsletter|link=newsletter}} header where it says "create next edition"!
:*You are about to create a new page. But the whole code is already filled in. Click {{Key press|Preview}} ({{Key press|Save}}) to create the Newsletter.
:*No need to copy the code manually from [[Talk:Next newsletter]].
:*No need to adjust any header dates or category numbers.
:*Every author can create a Newsletter in 2 simple clicks.
:The project consists of 3 pages currently in my sandbox:
:*[[User:Skybike/Template:This months newsletter/Newsletter example|Newsletter Example]]: an replacement for [[Talk:Next newsletter]] by Johan G. Feel free to edit that page.
:*{{obr}}[[User:Skybike/Template:This months newsletter|This months newsletter]]{{cbr}} complex template to manage the preload stuff.
:*And then an enhanced {{obr}}[[User:Skybike/Template:Newsletter-header-translate|Newsletter header]]{{cbr}} using preloading links. The old header has alignment issues on mobile devices as well and does not support translations.
:It is a '''100% ready to use''' and legoboyvdlp created the first "new" Newsletter in September 2018. Since then every single newsletter has been ceated that way and using the new design.
:Having such a frequently used code at a private sandbox is not what a "sandbox" is made for. At Village Pump I asked for thoughts on publishing it but never got any reaction (mid 2018). I am still willing to bring that into the real FlightGear wiki. '''I could copy all components to "FlightGear main"''' and merge all changes of [[Talk:Next newsletter]] to the new design [[User:Skybike/Template:This months newsletter/Newsletter example|here]].
:As said, this system '''already runs for almost 2 years''' without any issue. Although getting back to a copy-paste based system, as we had it before 2018, might be a valid option as well (I have to admit that these programmed components are more complex to maintain, alhough they make it extremely easy for newsletter authors).
:<small>''Background:'' We had the discussion about redesigning the newsletter mainly to '''lower the entry level for contributors'''. These grey toc entries right below of the newsletter header at [[Talk:Next newsletter]] had to be added manually and grouped manually. And Johan G also added the "We would like to emphasize ..." text at the top, a video section and some comments for editors.
:Another idea was however to make the newsletter '''multilingual'''. And in addition mediawiki preload system works with variables (like "$1 = June"), you never need to change such stuff as ("Category: Newsletter XXXX") manually again.</small>
:Greetings [[User:Skybike|Skybike]] ([[User talk:Skybike|talk]]) 19:19, 24 June 2020 (EDT)
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